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00:03248-539-9797
00:05that is the
00:07telephone number here
00:09it's the Valenti show with Rico
00:11Stoney in for
00:13Mr. Valenti
00:15I did promise
00:17that we would hear from Scott
00:19Harris on
00:21when he was asked about why he made the
00:23trade on Saturday that he could have got
00:25more if he waited till yesterday
00:27and here's how he
00:29answered that
00:55so there's your answer
00:57and then I like I said
00:59I was listening to MLB Network Radio
01:01driving in today
01:03and I think it was Jim Duquette
01:05one of those guys, former general manager
01:07I know it wasn't Bowdoin but he said
01:08that's not necessarily true, they all don't happen like that
01:11a lot of times there is a little back and forth
01:13so they thought he was
01:16not exactly telling
01:17the complete truth but in this instance
01:19if
01:21Hope was the guy that they wanted
01:23out of the Dodger prospects that were
01:25available and he thought that
01:27Hope was better than let's say
01:29the Brewers
01:29third or fourth prospect
01:32no matter what
01:33you know
01:36MLB pipeline
01:37or Baseball America
01:38because each team
01:39has their own ratings
01:40they don't just go by
01:42you know
01:42I get it
01:43and I know he kind of came across
01:45that's just not how it is
01:47right
01:47yeah
01:48okay
01:48here's the thing
01:49if Hope was your guy
01:51then he was still going to be your guy
01:53yesterday
01:54so
01:55maybe not though
01:56maybe
01:56you know what
01:58and maybe they throw in an extra person
02:00you still get the same three people
02:02that's possible
02:03and the Dodgers may be like
02:04okay okay
02:04what
02:05what if we throw this person in as well
02:07all right
02:08cool
02:08so
02:09I don't see how it was going to hurt you
02:11to wait
02:12he made it seem like
02:13it's absurd
02:14it's not how it's done
02:16it's like
02:16but it is possible
02:18that
02:18the Dodgers
02:19because they have so many prospects
02:21could say
02:21all right
02:23you
02:23you don't want this
02:24I'm gonna
02:25I'm gonna try to get
02:26Kevin Gossman
02:27or some other pitcher
02:28now
02:29obviously
02:29Scuba was their prize
02:31so who knows
02:31we don't know
02:32yeah the Dodgers always wanted Scuba
02:34they
02:34they just played hard to get
02:36and you didn't
02:37you're like
02:37no okay
02:38okay
02:38fine
02:39I'll take that deal
02:40and I do wonder
02:42Stoney
02:42this is one where
02:44we'll probably never know
02:45but
02:45based off of his past
02:47trade deadline decisions
02:50did he feel like
02:52I gotta get something
02:53so you know what
02:54I'm gonna take the bird in the hand
02:56and I'll get these three players
02:58and you know what
02:59like I said
03:00hope
03:01nothing against him
03:02because I do think
03:03that he could end up being
03:04in this Tigers lineup
03:05the pitchers
03:06we'll wait and see
03:07but I just wondered
03:09if due to his past history
03:11he said
03:12I can't screw up
03:13this trade deadline
03:14I've screwed up
03:16the last couple
03:16I gotta get something
03:18it's possible
03:19let's go to Joe
03:20in Detroit
03:21what's happening
03:21Joe
03:23thank you for taking my call
03:24I love your perspectives
03:26on this stuff
03:27let me hit you
03:28with some bullet points
03:29historical bullet points
03:30real quick
03:31to kind of mix it
03:32into what you're saying
03:32the 70s Tigers
03:35they're rebuilding
03:35they got Jason Thompson
03:37they trade Mickey Lulitz
03:38to get Rusty Staub
03:39they got Steve Kemp
03:40and everyone thought
03:42they're gonna build a team
03:43around these guys
03:44and in 77
03:45they draft
03:46they bring up
03:46Parrish
03:47Lou Whitaker
03:48Trammell
03:48Jack Morris
03:49the first three guys
03:51that I mentioned
03:51Kemp
03:52Thompson
03:52and Staub
03:53they're all gone
03:54by that time
03:54and remember the Steve Kemp
03:56Chet Lemon trade
03:57everyone went on
03:58oh my god
03:59who
03:59what
04:00you got
04:01Chet Lemon
04:02was a contributor
04:03to that team
04:03for the next 10 years
04:04and Kemp was out of baseball
04:05four years later
04:06you don't know
04:08how this stuff
04:09is gonna go
04:10let me hit you
04:10with another one
04:11the 1985
04:13Kansas City Royals
04:14you had
04:15Lee Brandt
04:16Saberhagen
04:16Danny Jackson
04:17Quisenberry
04:18in the bullpen
04:18but you had
04:19Hal McRae
04:20was an old man
04:21George Brent
04:22bat 420
04:23that whole year
04:23until he cooled off
04:24in September
04:25won the batting title
04:26at 360
04:27you had a guy
04:27named Steve Balboni
04:29who was hitting
04:29home runs
04:29they could not
04:30hit the ball
04:31but they'd be
04:32one of the best
04:33baseball teams
04:34in my opinion
04:35in my lifetime
04:36though that Toronto
04:37Blue Jays team
04:38was better than
04:39the 84 Tigers
04:40just that the Tigers
04:41got off to that
04:4235 and 5 start
04:43they could never
04:44catch them
04:44my point is this
04:46you're coaching
04:47your players
04:48it's a crap shoot
04:49you go with the team
04:51that you have
04:51I love A.J. Hinch
04:53he's a good manager
04:54he's unorthodox
04:55sometimes that's
04:56what it takes
04:57to win a World Series
04:58to get there
04:59I wasn't a
05:00Leap Run fan
05:00that 2013-2014
05:03Tigers team
05:04they should have
05:05won both those
05:06World Series
05:06he had more talent
05:08than God
05:08on that team
05:09and he couldn't
05:10pull it off
05:10so let me ask you
05:11so are you saying
05:12you wouldn't have
05:13traded Scubal or Mize
05:14is that what you're saying
05:15no I would have
05:16traded him
05:17you go with
05:17what you got
05:18you guys got
05:19great perspectives
05:20I'm really enjoying
05:21what you're saying
05:21Max Clark looks like
05:23a great ball player
05:24he could be out of
05:25baseball in two years
05:26you don't know
05:27how well are you
05:28going to play
05:28how well are you
05:30going to play
05:30with the players
05:31that you got
05:31I mean I love
05:32this team
05:33don't get me wrong
05:34they remind me
05:34of the 84 Tigers
05:36remember
05:36bless you boys
05:37you had all those
05:38kids on that team
05:39and you had
05:40Darryl Evans
05:40Darryl Evans
05:41was a big toe
05:42and you had
05:43all that talent
05:44they played well
05:45together
05:45they did
05:46but if you don't
05:47play well together
05:48I don't care
05:49how much talent
05:50you have
05:50you don't know
05:51what goes on
05:52in that locker room
05:53they look like
05:54they're having fun
05:54on the field
05:55you get some rivalries
05:56going between you
05:57you start playing
05:58against each other
05:59but you guys got
06:00great perspectives
06:01I'm really enjoying
06:02your program
06:03I really am
06:03but you know
06:04if you're
06:05you remember
06:07the 68 Tigers
06:08Mayo Smith
06:09made this great move
06:10he pitched
06:11Mickey Lulich
06:12three times
06:12he yanked
06:13Ray Oiler
06:14put Mickey
06:15Stanley at shortstop
06:17and now he had
06:17a great outfield
06:18Horton
06:18Northrop
06:19K-Line
06:20yep absolutely
06:21thanks for the call
06:21appreciate it
06:22I was
06:23you know
06:24he started
06:24with 84
06:25you know
06:26he kept going
06:27backwards
06:28so I was hoping
06:29he wasn't going
06:29to go to the
06:2935
06:30start bringing up
06:31Hank Greenberg
06:32about to say
06:32the 35 Tigers
06:33exactly
06:33exactly
06:34all right
06:36I was at
06:36Lions training camp
06:37today when
06:38word broke
06:39that
06:39signing autographs
06:41yeah
06:41of
06:42B. John Robinson
06:45signing with
06:46the Atlanta Falcons
06:47for his extension
06:48he will be
06:50making
06:5151 million
06:52dollars
06:53guaranteed
06:5351.6
06:5575 million
06:56dollars
06:57total for
06:58over a
06:58three year
06:58extension
06:59and the
07:0075 is
07:01with some
07:01incentive
07:02so basically
07:03it comes out
07:04to
07:0422.25
07:07million dollars
07:08a year
07:09which it
07:09makes him
07:10the highest
07:11paid
07:11running back
07:13in the
07:13National Football
07:14League right
07:14now
07:16percentage
07:17of the
07:17cap
07:18he's second
07:18to
07:19your boy
07:19C-Mac
07:20with the
07:21San Francisco
07:2149ers
07:22as far as
07:24the
07:24average
07:25per season
07:26you know
07:27Saquon is
07:28second
07:28at 20
07:28million
07:29dollars
07:3020.6
07:31so where
07:32does that
07:33leave
07:33Jameer Gibbs
07:34who is
07:35in the
07:36same
07:36exact
07:37class
07:37as
07:38B. John
07:39Robinson
07:39the same
07:41situation
07:41but Jameer Gibbs
07:43you know
07:43he signed
07:44through 28
07:45so there's
07:46really no
07:46rush
07:47but they
07:48both
07:48did a
07:49little
07:49hold
07:50in
07:50and it
07:51seemed
07:51like
07:51they
07:52were
07:52playing
07:52like
07:52a
07:52good
07:53natured
07:53game
07:53of
07:54chicken
07:54with
07:54each
07:55other
07:55to see
07:55who was
07:56going to
07:56go
07:56first
07:57because
07:57you know
07:58they're
07:58not
07:58going to
07:58hold
07:58out
07:59because
07:59there's
07:59too much
07:59money
08:00at stake
08:00so
08:01B. John
08:01signs
08:02today
08:02I
08:03would
08:03anticipate
08:04by the
08:05end
08:05of the
08:05week
08:05Jameer
08:06Gibbs
08:06will
08:06sign
08:07and
08:07I
08:07will
08:07anticipate
08:08that
08:09if
08:09B. John
08:10is
08:10making
08:1022.25
08:11a year
08:1275
08:13for
08:1451
08:1475
08:15million
08:16dollars
08:16for
08:16three
08:17years
08:17with
08:1751
08:18million
08:18guaranteed
08:19I
08:20think
08:20that
08:20Jameer
08:21Gibbs
08:21will
08:22get
08:22something
08:22like
08:2276
08:23million
08:24with
08:24maybe
08:2552
08:25million
08:26guaranteed
08:26not
08:27much
08:27more
08:28but
08:28enough
08:29to
08:29make
08:29him
08:29for
08:30this
08:30year
08:31the
08:32highest
08:32paid
08:32running
08:33back
08:33in the
08:33national
08:34football
08:34no
08:35that's
08:35how
08:35I
08:36see
08:36it
08:36as
08:36well
08:36and
08:37look
08:37I'm
08:38going to
08:38say
08:39it
08:39again
08:39I'm
08:40not
08:40all
08:41for
08:41signing
08:41running
08:42backs
08:42I
08:42understand
08:43it
08:43they're
08:44expendable
08:45you said
08:46he's
08:46going to
08:46be
08:47the
08:47bell
08:47cow
08:47he's
08:48going to
08:48get
08:48a ton
08:48of
08:48touches
08:49whether
08:49out
08:49of
08:50the
08:50back
08:50field
08:51or
08:51catching
08:51the
08:51ball
08:52that's
08:52a lot
08:53of
08:53wear and
08:53tear
08:53on the
08:54body
08:54and
08:55you
08:55see
08:55even
08:56you know
08:56we talked
08:57about
08:57Zay
08:57Flowers
08:58in this
08:58contract
08:59far
09:00better
09:00than
09:01you know
09:01B.
09:02John
09:02Robinson
09:02so
09:02it's
09:03going to
09:03be
09:03far
09:03better
09:04than
09:04Gibbs
09:05that
09:06being
09:06said
09:07and
09:07I'm
09:08going to
09:08say
09:08this
09:08slow
09:08for
09:09the
09:09people
09:09in
09:09the
09:09back
09:10I'm
09:10not
09:10for
09:10paying
09:17tissue
09:18injuries
09:18for
09:19holding
09:19out
09:19because
09:20that's
09:20normally
09:20what
09:21happens
09:21if
09:22you're
09:22the
09:22Lions
09:23you've
09:24been
09:24paying
09:24everybody
09:24else
09:25early
09:26you know
09:27you're
09:27going to
09:27pay
09:27them
09:28don't
09:29drag
09:29this
09:29thing
09:29out
09:30you're
09:30not
09:30going to
09:31play
09:31hardball
09:33Brad's
09:33not
09:34going to
09:34play
09:34their
09:34true
09:35villain
09:35he only
09:35wears
09:36the
09:36villain
09:36t-shirts
09:37and
09:37historically
09:38they do
09:38take
09:39care
09:39of
09:39their
09:39own
09:40right
09:40so
09:40that's
09:41why
09:41I
09:41said
09:42in
09:42this
09:43thing
09:43as
09:43quickly
09:44as
09:44possible
09:45and
09:45just
09:46get
09:46him
09:46in
09:47the
09:47camp
09:47so
09:48that
09:48and
09:48you
09:49know
09:49what
09:49if
09:49you
09:49can
09:49get
09:50him
09:50for
09:50a
09:50three
09:51year
09:51deal
09:51like
09:51that
09:52and
09:52three
09:52year
09:52extension
09:53so
09:53that
09:54by
09:54the
09:54time
09:54it
09:54really
09:55kicks
09:55in
09:55he's
09:5628
09:56because
09:57normally
09:57running
09:57backs
09:58start
09:59losing
09:59their
09:59fastball
10:00or so
10:00around
10:0028
10:0129
10:02great
10:03and
10:04here's
10:04the
10:04other
10:04thing
10:05we
10:05can't
10:05get
10:05caught
10:05up
10:06in
10:06the
10:06actual
10:06dollars
10:07because
10:07as
10:08the
10:09cap
10:09rises
10:10you
10:11know
10:11in
10:11a
10:12year
10:13two
10:13years
10:13that
10:14contract
10:15that
10:15Bijan
10:15and
10:16Gibbs
10:16will
10:16be
10:17signing
10:17will
10:18not
10:18be
10:18the
10:19top
10:20salary
10:21anymore
10:21somebody
10:22else
10:23will
10:23right
10:23so
10:25485399797
10:26you know
10:27what the
10:28percentage
10:28of the
10:28cap
10:29I mean
10:29Bijan
10:29takes up
10:307.39
10:31percent
10:31of their
10:32cap
10:32I'm not
10:33sure
10:33exactly
10:34how much
10:34that would
10:35be
10:35for Gibbs
10:35to take
10:37if they
10:38sign up
10:38to that
10:39much
10:39probably
10:39somewhat
10:40similar
10:40around
10:407 percent
10:41of the
10:41cap
10:41but that's
10:42okay
10:42I guess
10:43but it
10:44is a
10:44position
10:45of
10:45you know
10:46attrition
10:46guys get
10:47hurt a lot
10:47but a
10:48guy by the
10:49name of
10:50James Costa
10:51familiar with
10:51his work
10:52yes
10:52he tweeted
10:54out something
10:54that's very
10:55interesting
10:57can you
10:57make
10:57tweets
10:58out could
10:59you make
10:59the case
11:00even with
11:00the injury
11:01risk that
11:01elite running
11:02backs are
11:02underpaid
11:04because he
11:04says Bijan's
11:05making the
11:06same per
11:06year as
11:08Christian
11:08Watson
11:09and his
11:0923 million
11:10a year
11:10Courtland
11:11Sutton
11:12also
11:1223
11:13Chris
11:13Godwin
11:1422
11:15Devante
11:16Adams
11:16he's a
11:17pro
11:17ball
11:17player
11:1822
11:18million
11:19Jacoby
11:19Myers
11:2020
11:20million
11:20so
11:21wide
11:22receivers
11:22as we
11:23pointed out
11:23with the
11:24Zay
11:24Flowers
11:24thing
11:25maybe
11:26they're
11:27getting
11:27more
11:27overpaid
11:28than
11:28the
11:28running
11:29backs
11:30they
11:30are
11:30might
11:30be
11:31underpaid
11:32so
11:32they are
11:32underpaid
11:33but
11:33the fact
11:34that
11:35there's
11:35more of
11:36a chance
11:36of an
11:36injury
11:37with the
11:37running
11:37back
11:37because
11:38they're
11:38going to
11:38touch
11:38the
11:39ball
11:39anywhere
11:40between
11:4015
11:41to
11:4130
11:42times
11:42depending
11:42on who
11:42the
11:43back
11:43is
11:43where
11:44a
11:45top
11:45receiver
11:45may
11:46get
11:46you know
11:4712
11:47targets
11:48a
11:48game
11:50and
11:51you know
11:51the
11:51running
11:52back
11:52has to
11:52go
11:53through
11:53and
11:53he's
11:53getting
11:53a bunch
11:54of
11:54people
11:54tackling
11:54him
11:55I
11:55understand
11:56why
11:56you don't
11:57pay them
11:57that
11:58much
11:59because
11:59chances
12:00are
12:01your
12:01average
12:02back
12:02is
12:02not
12:02going
12:02to
12:02last
12:03that
12:03long
12:03you
12:04think
12:04oh
12:04this
12:05guy
12:05is
12:05going
12:05to
12:05be
12:05great
12:06forever
12:06and
12:07boom
12:07they're
12:08not
12:08so
12:09I
12:10get
12:10that
12:10if
12:11you're
12:11going
12:11to
12:11pay
12:12Gibbs
12:14front
12:14load
12:14it
12:14give
12:15him
12:15as
12:15much
12:15in
12:16the
12:16signing
12:16bonus
12:16so
12:17that
12:17the
12:17final
12:17years
12:18when
12:18you
12:18have
12:19to
12:19get
12:19rid
12:19of
12:19him
12:19if
12:20you
12:20have
12:20to
12:20it's
12:21not
12:21going
12:21to
12:21hurt
12:21you
12:21that
12:28you
12:28want
12:28the
12:28Lions
12:29to
12:29pay
12:29Jameer
12:30Gibbs
12:30what
12:31Bijan
12:31Robinson
12:32made
12:32maybe
12:32a little
12:32bit
12:33more
12:3397
12:341
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