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Robinson inked his extension, how long till Gibbs signs his with the Detroit Lions.
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00:00All right, so B. John Robinson gets
00:02three years up to $75 million,
00:03$51 million of which is guaranteed,
00:07but it's up
00:08to $75 million.
00:09What is the
00:11average annual?
00:1422.25 or something like that?
00:16Okay.
00:17So I really would have liked this deal for Jameer Gibbs
00:21for a couple of reasons. One is that whoever
00:23signs first is probably going to sign for the least
00:27already.
00:30Okay. Whoever signs first is probably going to sign
00:33for the least, so Gibbs will probably get
00:35more. The length
00:37on this deal,
00:39a three-year extension,
00:41which is both Gibbs
00:43and B. John Robinson
00:45have essentially two years
00:47left on their current contracts.
00:49This year, next
00:51year, and now in B. John's
00:53case, three more, which takes him up
00:55to his 28-year-old
00:57season.
00:59And if you look,
01:01ESPN did a study a couple
01:03of seasons ago
01:04that identified
01:05the age with which most
01:07running backs
01:09hit a cliff.
01:12And the age
01:13most running backs
01:14hit a cliff
01:14is
01:1629.
01:17There's also something
01:19to be said for number of carries,
01:20a number of hits.
01:21There's studies on that
01:23as well, which puts it
01:24somewhere between
01:241,200 and 1,500.
01:27Right now,
01:28Jameer Gibbs
01:28is averaging
01:29285
01:31catches
01:31and carries
01:33a season.
01:34So, if you extrapolate
01:36that, if you give him
01:36a three-year contract,
01:38say he continues
01:39at his current
01:39workload,
01:41and he signs
01:42a similar
01:42length contract
01:44that will take him
01:45through the year
01:46that he is 28 years old,
01:47right before he hits
01:48that
01:49marker that
01:50typically serves
01:51as a cliff
01:51for running backs.
01:54But he will go
01:55well over
01:56the typical carries
01:57and touches.
01:58He will get up
01:59to
02:002,280
02:01catches
02:02and runs.
02:04So, he might be
02:05starting to slow down
02:06near the end
02:06of a contract
02:07like this.
02:08But
02:09at this point,
02:10you know,
02:11there's a give and take.
02:12You know that
02:13sort of the price
02:14of doing business
02:15might be you sign
02:16a contract
02:16that the last year
02:18you might not love.
02:20But
02:20at the end
02:21of the day,
02:22Scott,
02:22I kind of hope
02:23that the Lions
02:24can get something
02:25done like this
02:25that's just a little
02:26bit more.
02:27That's just a little
02:28bit more.
02:29Yeah, I would agree.
02:30And, you know,
02:31you start doing
02:31comparisons to other
02:32players and, okay,
02:34when do these guys
02:34start to downside
02:35their career?
02:36I look more
02:37at the
02:40hits he's going
02:41to take,
02:41the carries he's
02:42going to take,
02:43and receptions
02:44as opposed to
02:45the years.
02:45Yeah, they both.
02:47It's how you use
02:48the guy during
02:48that time.
02:49Yeah, and there
02:49has to become
02:50a time where
02:51as an organization,
02:53you have to start
02:54thinking about
02:55a player's
02:55preservation.
02:56Yeah, and I
02:57think when you
02:58get north of,
03:00I don't know,
03:00I'm going to
03:00throw an arbitrary
03:01number, it's
03:01going to seem,
03:02like 1,250
03:03carries, somewhere
03:04between that and
03:051,500 carries.
03:06That's when I
03:07would expect,
03:08okay, you've
03:09gotten the best
03:09years out of that
03:10person at that
03:11point, and
03:12not that they
03:13wouldn't be
03:14productive after it
03:15because Lord knows
03:15we've seen plenty
03:16of Hall of Fame
03:17running backs that
03:18will have 10,
03:1912, 14-year
03:20careers, and
03:23hopefully Gibbs
03:24is one of those
03:24guys, but
03:25okay, I think
03:26if they get it
03:28done for a
03:28three-year extension,
03:29which I'm going to
03:29guess is going to
03:30be the same,
03:30really similar to
03:32what B. John
03:32Robinson just
03:33got, that would
03:35be fine.
03:36Look at that
03:37four years from
03:38now when the
03:38contract is over
03:39or five years from
03:40now whenever the
03:40contract is done
03:41because I would
03:42assume it's the
03:42same thing,
03:42right?
03:43You got the rest
03:43of this year,
03:44all of next
03:44year, and then
03:45the extension
03:45would kick in.
03:47Okay, because
03:48they're getting
03:48money up front
03:49with a signing
03:50bonus that
03:51will help
03:52offset that and
03:53having to wait
03:53for it.
03:54So I think
03:55that I'm hoping
03:56the Lions will
03:57do that, and
03:57it seems to be
03:58in line.
03:59It's not crazy.
03:59Let's go.
04:00Three years,
04:0075 million.
04:01Make it 75,
04:02not up to,
04:03just make it 75.
04:04When we brought
04:04this up last
04:05week, when it
04:06was first, and
04:07you were gone,
04:08and Kang, you
04:08were gone, there
04:09was talk that
04:10Gibbs is basically
04:13wanting a new
04:14contract, and
04:15we got, what
04:16surprised me, I
04:17never am surprised
04:18when there's some
04:18pushback.
04:19Sometimes I'm
04:20surprised at the
04:20amount of
04:21pushback, the
04:22amount of
04:22pushback we
04:23got for people
04:25who did not
04:25want Gibbs to
04:26get a contract
04:27extension surprised
04:28me, and the
04:30argument, I get
04:31the argument, the
04:32argument is
04:32essentially you
04:34can have him
04:35play this year
04:36and next year
04:37because he's
04:38under contract,
04:40and you can
04:41franchise him
04:42the year after
04:42that, so you
04:44can have Jameer
04:44Gibbs through the
04:46heart of this
04:46career as he
04:48accumulates hits
04:49with every carry
04:50and every catch,
04:51as he accumulates
04:52hits, and the
04:53running back takes
04:54more abuse and
04:56wear and tear on
04:57the body and
04:58starts to slow
04:59down, and then
05:01you let him go.
05:03And this year
05:04he's going to
05:05play at 24
05:06years old, next
05:06year 25, the
05:07year after that
05:0826, and it
05:09sounds to me
05:10like that
05:11crowd would
05:11rather let him
05:12go a year or
05:13two early, and
05:15the contract
05:16might have him
05:17here a year or
05:18maybe too late,
05:20you know what I'm
05:20saying?
05:21Like there's a
05:21sweet spot, but
05:23it felt like, and
05:25I guess I was just
05:26surprised at how
05:27many people, not
05:28that anybody said
05:28it, but we got a
05:30substantial amount
05:32of calls and
05:32texts saying,
05:33why are you even
05:34considering resigning
05:35him when you
05:35control him for the
05:36next three years?
05:37Yeah, I get
05:38that, and there's
05:40certainly a camp
05:41for that, but
05:42also, I think
05:44Gibbs could be
05:44special, and I
05:46want to take care
05:47of what we have,
05:47which could be
05:48special here, and
05:50work with that.
05:51He is, he's not
05:52just a running
05:53pack.
05:53I mean, this guy's
05:54a weapon as a
05:55receiver as well.
05:56There's so much he
05:57does.
05:58They'll give him a
05:59contract, which is
05:59going to commit to
06:00him, which means
06:01committing to giving
06:02him more opportunities.
06:03He's a touchdown
06:04machine, and he
06:06is the number one
06:08offensive weapon on
06:09this team, so I
06:10want to take care of
06:11that.
06:11I like that.
06:12And when you look
06:14at players that need
06:15to get contract
06:15extensions on this
06:16roster that still
06:17need to get them,
06:18and I think he's
06:19number one with a
06:19bullet.
06:20The other guys
06:21left that need to
06:22get extensions or
06:22could get extensions,
06:24I'm probably going
06:25to be more passive
06:26about them.
06:26Let it play out for
06:27the season.
06:28I'm not in any
06:29hurry to give Sam
06:29Laporte the big
06:30contract or Brian
06:32Branch a big deal.
06:32I'm not in a
06:33hurry for those
06:33guys.
06:34I like those
06:34players a ton, but
06:36at some point, you
06:38have to make a
06:39really tough decision
06:40if you're Brad
06:41Holmes and the
06:42front office and
06:43the number counters
06:44up there and
06:45figure out how to
06:45work with the cap.
06:47I don't know if
06:47they're going to be
06:48able to sign
06:48everybody, and
06:49injuries certainly
06:50play a factor, and
06:51the other two
06:52players I mentioned
06:52are dealing with
06:53injuries and coming
06:53back from injuries.
06:55All right, so the
06:56question is, now
06:57that the price is
06:58likely set, do you
07:00want the Lions to
07:01sign Gibbs to this
07:02type of contract?
07:04It's probably going
07:04to be a hair more,
07:05but that's the way
07:07it works in this
07:07league.
07:08That's the way it
07:08works in professional
07:09sports.
07:10Comparable athletes,
07:11one signs a
07:11contract, the next
07:12one is going to
07:13sign it for just a
07:14little bit more.
07:15Would you approve
07:16of this contract for
07:17Jameer Gibbs?
07:18Three years up to
07:19$75 million-ish.
07:22$248-539-97-97.
07:24This is a contract
07:25extension that
07:27Bijon signed.
07:28So, two more
07:29years under the
07:30current deal, and
07:31then three more at
07:33the $75 million.
07:34What happens is, they
07:35get a signing bonus,
07:36which means you sign
07:37this contract now, and
07:38you get a whole ton of
07:38money up front.
07:39You play under your
07:40current contract, and
07:42then the extension
07:42kicks in.
07:43So, it would be five
07:45more years of Jameer
07:46Gibbs.
07:47$248-539-97-97.
07:49It's Carson Anderson
07:50here on 97.1.
07:51$248-539-97.
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