00:00right now it's time for a little bit of nfl overreaction or reality and we will start with
00:08this hear me out before you get angry overreaction or reality shoddy is currently a bottom half head
00:16coach in the nfl so so what are you asking there yes that will always be funny to me so
00:25cbs put
00:26out their top 10 coaching lists which we had talked about some of that but you go down the list
00:32and in
00:32the also receiving votes category dan campbell john harbaugh kevin o'connell mike mccarthy and liam
00:39cohen which puts shoddy at no better than 16th and it puts him behind mike mccarthy we'll get to that
00:47in a minute but overreaction or reality as of this moment brian schottenheimer is a bottom half head
00:55coach in the nfl you know what kevin i'd like to think that uh it's more middle of the pack
00:59than
01:00bottom half uh and so and exactly where the cowboys are right right and there's a lot of unknown that
01:08comes along with this he can change that very quickly by christian parker being a good defense
01:13a quality defensive coordinator and having actual talent on the defensive side of the ball hearing
01:19shavone revel say yesterday we're we are uh organized for the first time as a defense
01:28it's such a low bar that we've established and so i think people get it twisted sometimes like
01:33you guys are drinking the cowboys kool-aid i'm like no i am excited that much like the avengers they
01:41know how to assemble just on defense that is an incredibly low bar of excitement but here we are
01:48you're totally right and i think the thing that we keep uh putting out there and somebody's ready
01:54for the chart i need to go back and find the chart kevin uh where you are the elite team
02:00right good
02:00teams the great teams the mediocre teams uh that's the like i need to go ahead and put that out
02:06there
02:07but right now you're still you are a mediocre team until further notice sure you were a bad team last
02:13year i i'm gonna slot you at mediocre because that's what i think you are you can
02:18absolutely move up quickly we see the possibilities and a lot of the things we saw in the two practices
02:25that we saw and some of the stuff we're hearing from our friends that work here at the station who
02:29we trust and know do good things we're hearing positive things but the reality is we won't know
02:35enough until we see the starters on starters and unfortunately we won't see that until game one
02:41against the new york giants now alec i don't know if you're gonna go in a similar direction but
02:47overreaction to reality shoddy is currently a bottom half head coach in the nfl and me and
02:54cory are just like linked at the brain because i was like nah bottom half he's like right around the
03:00middle on the better side of the middle okay i'd say like 15 or 14th is fair just because yes
03:07rough season last year and ultimately that's going to fall on the man in charge but i think you made
03:14enough improvements both in player personnel and bringing in a guy that quite simply knows how to
03:20do a better job than the last and like you said the bar is on the absolute floor well let's
03:25follow
03:26up with that i have two bonus questions for you here overreaction or reality shoddy is a better head
03:33coach than mike mccarthy um not yet okay now maybe or he's pro mike mccarthy well here's the thing well
03:44mike mccarthy does have a super bowl true the schottenheimer family still working towards that
03:49that is true uh so as much as i i really do love schottenheimer what he's built he ted lassoed
03:55this
03:55thing i gotta work on this this so we're still not gonna win stop it uh i gotta work on
04:01on getting
04:02the group of guys together you know i gotta i gotta build a foundation here and then we'll work on
04:07on the other things after that and so he's still working on the next phase of that but he hasn't
04:15done it he's a one year in mike mccarthy does have a track record that at least he had a
04:20quarterback
04:20that won a super bowl one year they were able to do that and they made the playoffs many times
04:24all right schottenheimer hasn't done that yet alex so controversially enough cory is team mike
04:30mccarthy bonus overreaction or reality shoddy rick bonus is a better head coach arvita sabonis
04:37than demontis mike mccarthy and demontis sabonis i think a lot of people are better than the situation
04:44that sabonis is in um i uh it's tough obviously i'm biased i don't really like mike mccarthy but
04:52i gotta go with the ring talk man he's been there done that he has the experience i think it's
04:58just
04:58it's too close to call kevin uh be or too soon to call i should say honestly because
05:04for shoddy you just haven't seen enough i think there's a world where if you ask me in a few
05:09seasons i'm saying yes for sure i think he's on the right path there's just not a big enough sample
05:14size and the sample size that i do have was a tough season one more bonus question for you about
05:21shoddy overreaction or reality by the end of the season shoddy will move into the top 10 of nfl head
05:31coaches oh this is uh this is a gambling prediction here indeed we should probably go to joshua on this
05:40one he's uh he's the smart gambler he's one he is one of the station um and this one actually
05:46matters
05:48i'm glad he won money i'm just saying what he won money's green that's true well
05:54is it don't get technical on me i talking semantics i don't think so oh i hope so i just
06:03there's too
06:04many things still unknown for me to to say that he's gonna leapfrog some of these other guys right
06:09now but it's really what only six spots to get in you know that's if you think he's at 16
06:15which i'll do
06:15yeah uh so so yeah that's i just don't think so but i'm but i'm i'm hopeful that all the
06:23adjustments they made because his hands were all over this defense being changed too sure like he
06:28talks about he didn't even want to talk to christian parker and then he was like then i finally did
06:32and
06:32man that was the best decision i made good call yeah so like this is that there's still a lot
06:38to
06:38be seen so i'm gonna say i'm playing i'm betting on the field right now all right alec that's strike
06:43two
06:43from cory against shoddy what do you say overreaction reality he will be a top 10 coach
06:49by the end of the season reality oh good bet i love it i love it i think he will
06:55be and i think
06:57because the defensive changes are going to be dramatic enough just because again like you said
07:03kevin it's not drinking the kool-aid it's the fact that the bar is literally beneath the ground right
07:08now right because of what we saw last year i think and i'm kind of tired of saying it just
07:13because everybody's saying it but if the defense even looks average then i think the success of
07:19the team gets magnified a lot more nfl overreaction or reality let's stick in the nfc east odell
07:27beckham jr or juju smith schuster will make the giants roster um i think juju smith schuster is more
07:37likely to make it than odell beckham jr i if they bring odell back it's it's honorary you know it's
07:45like whenever you you got that little uh deputy sticker uh oh man you know there's your sticker
07:52little buddy you know i feel like that's what's going on there so yeah i think juju smith schuster
08:00who has played more recently has a better opportunity than odell beckham does he make it
08:05no okay alec overreaction reality odell beckham or juju smith schuster will make the giants roster
08:17i'm actually on the complete opposite side here from cory i think reality i think odell will
08:23i think juju won't because juju's just not very good at his job right simply put odell i'm not saying
08:31i'm super plugged into giants offseason but i've been intrigued just because of the the coaching
08:38changes over there and the leadership changes odell actually looks like he's moving pretty well
08:43for a guy that hasn't been doing this in quite some time and to be quite honest he's moving quicker
08:50than malik neighbors coming off of that knee injury so i think he at least looks the part will he
08:55play a
08:56lot probably not but i think he makes the team okay he is currently the seventh receiver on their
09:02depth chart um only two away there's there's 90 receivers on their depth chart so like that's like
09:08that is the thing but i think that darius slayton calvin austin neighbors i know where you said about
09:14is the injury malachi fields darnell mooney schuster's still in front of him uh but this is a fun
09:22i just hope it all falls apart for the giants i really do yeah no matter what nfl overreaction
09:27or reality the lions are the clear favorite in the nfc north now check this out see that's what i
09:36thought too but outside of the rams the lions are the biggest betting favorite to win their division
09:45which i found to be pretty surprising how but biggest out of all the other divisions what
09:52you're saying the exception of the rams wow which feels pretty disrespectful to the seahawks but
09:58and the cowboys uh the cowboys i hate to tell you are not the favorites to win their division
10:04me is the giants it's not the giants and it's not the commanders no is the cardinals that how long
10:12i
10:13know but how long has it been since the cardinals were even in that seven seven eight one one oh
10:18five
10:18three do you remember when the cardinals were in the nfc he's not wrong nfc east yes were they still
10:24the arizona cardinals i think they were st louis okay all right so i guess i could wrap my head
10:29around
10:30so you're saying it's the eagles wow um i i i just don't that division's too difficult for me to
10:39agree to look at and say that like i am again maybe i am too high on the bears this
10:45year the packers
10:46are still a are chock full of talent they do have they do go missing in moments uh for themselves
10:55but they're still chock full of talent the lions i i don't know what they added this offseason
11:00that makes them that big of a favorite other than now jameer gibbs gets the ball more i i just
11:07don't
11:07know what it is maybe saint brown being healthier all seasons another another gamble there i just maybe
11:13uh aiden hutchinson being healthy and and i don't i don't know they have a lot of talent but i'm
11:20very
11:20curious to see what kyler murray and kevin o'connell do up there right right all right well i i'm
11:27with
11:27you on that now let's go to you then alec overreaction or reality the lions are the clear
11:33favorite in the nfc north overreaction i'm with cory because this one just it feels like the division
11:42where i have the most questions do you think they're even the actual favorite i don't know i don't think
11:48so
11:49i don't because i'm with cory what did they do this offseason how did they get better i don't
11:54really think they got better comparative to the other teams in that division that actually made moves
11:59to try and get better but if you told me that division was the most bet on division outside of
12:06the nfc west i'd be like sure that makes a ton of sense because it is so it like perfectly
12:11balanced
12:12right now in terms of the level of competition for them to be the one that sticks out the most
12:17outside
12:18of the rams i don't understand i think maybe detroit has a betting problem too uh kevin from the uh
12:25from the 321 wait the cardinals aren't in the nfc east thank goodness because we know that division
12:32goes through them i mean if they were in the east it probably would because lord knows we can't go
12:38through i struggle with it man cowboys struggle with it for whatever reason but jalen thompson
12:43did confirm that's changing this year okay
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