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Do the Pistons still have a big move on the horizon?
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00:00feels like he's taking tobias's spot younger player cheaper player better shooter
00:05still got capable of playing in a pick and roll offense interesting interesting feels like an
00:10upgrade from a basketball standpoint if you are reshaping your personality it is definitely a
00:17loss of a positive influence in the locker room and a leader for this team if tobias is indeed
00:22gone and it feels like that's a logical conclusion in the meantime we await word on any offer that
00:28is made to jalen duran so what's next what is next it's probably sorting out the duran situation
00:37as it stands right now nothing has been offered yet as far as a sign and trade for the pistons
00:43they might simply just match an offer if one is made a sign and trade would be a team that's
00:48saying
00:48we'll we'll pay him this in a sign and trade and here's what we'll offer you for him i mean
00:57the
00:57reporting says sacramento it's the bonus uh the modest bonus center and the lakers it feels like
01:04it'd be draft picks and cap space i don't know if they get ruey out of it but i don't
01:08know if they
01:09want really at this point anyway we're looking at some flexibility if they if they if the lakers are
01:15a player here and you get back draft picks and cap space that's just begging for them to go make
01:23a
01:23big trade right whether it be trey murphy whether it be jalen brown but again it's a it's a total
01:31revamp of this team's personality because you're getting guys that are known for outside shooting
01:36and they will be have loaded up on a lot of good shooters but they'll still need like a starting
01:42center unless they're going to go with b-ball paul yeah i have a hard time thinking that the plan
01:48is
01:48for paul reed to be your starting center and playing 30 minutes a game so but i also i i
01:55really
01:55firmly believe that jalen derner is the number one option that's what they want even if it means they
02:00have to match the an offer of 44 million dollars a year if that's what the lakers are going to
02:06try to
02:06sign them to okay you can try it but this is going to match it you know it's kind of
02:11like the red
02:12wings dealt with sergey fedorov back in the day when he was a restricted free agent was signed to an
02:15offer sheet by carolina and that offer sheet i think paid him 15 million dollars in bonus money
02:21that had to be paid right away red wings begrudgingly said all right we'll have to give them that money
02:26right up front but we're keeping fedorov and they you know won another stanley cup out of it
02:30i agree with you gator i think jayden derner is clearly the number one plan plan a is keep derner
02:37here
02:37and if plan b is they will move on i don't know if they will max the 44 million per
02:43year gator but
02:44they've they put it out there basically right they've let everyone know we will match any offer
02:48so they're actually that's what they're saying at least and i think the identity of the team doug
02:53it's kate cunningham it's asar thompson it's jb bickerstaff those are the three guys that the
02:58pillars of this team now the young guys that they're gonna lean on to set the culture stewart
03:03and tobias harris helped usher that in but now they feel like they have enough experience with those
03:08other guys including jb bickerstaff to continue that because i said a lot of times last year they won 60
03:13games for sure and you are what your record is but there were talent i felt like jb bickerstaff
03:18squeezed every single amount of juice out of that lemon for that squad i mean when javante green
03:24danis jenkins b-ball paul these guys are coming through for you to win games i don't know if any
03:30that could have been done at any other time in history to be honest with you and i think trajan
03:33saw
03:34that he saw a lack of overall talent with this team and he says you know with kate cunningham and
03:39the
03:39elite defensive ability of asar thompson and i think they want durin back i think if we get better
03:45players elsewhere and just upgrade at every position a little bit we can be a force in the playoffs we
03:50can get us over that hump to get us to the conference finals but i think they're doing it i
03:54grabbing isaiah
03:55joe and john collins aren't huge moves but they're upgrades and then you you can't forget kate cunningham
04:00could still get better too they're building around kate they're getting him help it's just not like this
04:05massive like trey murphy michael porter jr help yet maybe i don't know i don't know if trajan still
04:10was up asleep but i feel like he's got a plan yeah i think he's definitely got a plan and
04:14i think the
04:15first part of his plan is to let's take care of jalen durin here and which i imagine gets settled
04:21pretty quickly here you know if those were the i mean i wouldn't we haven't heard any reports of
04:27other teams with interest in durin right there are some rumors out there but i haven't seen anybody
04:33credible say anything so it shouldn't take too long to to make that decision up and then you just
04:40say yes we'll match or whatever um as as far as you know trading to add another piece i do
04:45think they
04:46have to add one more piece a big piece not just on the margins uh so to speak um does
04:53is rui
04:54hachimara is that a guy who is a big piece or is he somewhere between margins and big piece he's
05:01a
05:01free agent so you can go sign him anytime you want um so i like three-point shooter i like
05:08rui a lot as
05:09a player yeah i mean i would i would i would be pretty happy if they brought in rui could
05:16he be part
05:17of a sign and trade with the lakers well he's unrestricted i don't know he could he could still
05:22i think he could still do a sign and trade with that but they would free up cap space and
05:27they can
05:27make a run at him or lebron that's the second time in two days i've whispered the name lebron
05:34i don't either two four eight five three nine 97 97 here's some feedback coming in uh to the
05:40karsh and anderson inbox uh collins is a solid starting four better rebounded interior score
05:47maybe better three-point shooter fantastic move langdon knows what he's doing that's from an unnamed
05:52texter another unnamed texter i think trajan is up to something the duran sitch seems a little
05:59peculiar because if they wanted to make it work i feel like they could have done it and carried on
06:05could be wrong but i don't know well why would you offer him an amount of money that would make
06:14him go to
06:14the open market there's there's a couple things one is they could be planning something else
06:23which could be as boring as an assar extension is as exciting as adding another player
06:29they could be saying we're going to bring him back no matter what we just don't want to overpay so
06:34let's lowball him he'll go to the open market see what he gets and then that's the price we'll pay
06:41because we have the rights to match any offer because he is a restricted free agent and under
06:46those rules we can just match any offer and keep him so that's one way to assure that you won't
06:52overpay what the market would pay him you do that at the risk of alienating the player right
06:59if duran's pissed about this and he might be you run the risk of alienating the player when you do
07:05this
07:05you can um but i also think that it's it's an agent's job to tell the player and it's a
07:13it's a
07:13player's job to understand it's a business just a business right this is why you hire an agent
07:19so you're not dealing with the the conversations are going back and forth let that let an agent deal
07:24with that if it gets ugly there it gets ugly there and it's just you know his job to insulate
07:29you from
07:29that and protect you from that so um i would hope that he understands that and i mean who knows
07:35what
07:36goes on behind the scenes maybe jalen duran truly wants to get out of detroit and if that's the case
07:41then let him go find a sign of trade because you don't want a player that doesn't want to be
07:45here
07:46but i don't think that's the case i think he's just he's recognizing a situation here at the age of
07:5122
07:51got a golden opportunity to really cash in and the offer that the pistons gave him wasn't one where
07:59he's going to say that's the offer i want his agent's like you can get a lot more let's let's
08:04explore these options these two california teams and you know worst case scenario is the pistons match
08:12okay you're back where you want to be anyway at a price that you were going to agree with with
08:16another team uh from an unnamed texter if they signed collins to start that means they aren't trading
08:22for murphy not necessarily but you know the thing about we got to point this out a lot of reporters
08:28are
08:28saying it appears that the john collins thing might be a sign of trade so um we got to sit
08:34tight for
08:35the details that but part of perhaps tied to isaiah isaiah stewart yeah things get really wonky
08:42in the nba i approve of the pistons moves so far i think they're building off previous weaknesses
08:48very well need one or two more moves to be a home run that's from an unnamed texter
08:54another unnamed texter hell yes i approve we got joe and collins for the same price as harris
08:59and i'd rather have either of them than harris like i said this offseason feels a little bit to me
09:07like some of our listeners are running the pistons
09:12248-539-9797 gary says the way you describe what the pistons are doing this offseason sounds like
09:18what the lions did in this offseason um i don't know if i agree with that i mean the pistons
09:28are
09:29potentially coming back with three new starters i mean it's hard to compare a roster with 22 starters
09:36to five but is isaiah joe the version of uh of the center cade mays yeah um good not great
09:46good
09:47solid fills a need yeah could be i don't i don't feel like the lions have completely overhauled their
09:53personality i think the pistons might be in the process of completely i would agree with that the
09:57pistons look like on paper right now that they're going to be a completely different team
10:02harold and taylor floor spacing has improved big time bold prediction cade leads the league
10:06and assists this year uh from an unnamed texter i would still like to find a pathway to land tyler
10:13hero cade will be the best player he's played with i think he can get more out of him it's
10:18still
10:19possible 248-539-9797 all right straight ahead a sports writer with an idea that i think every fan
10:25would say hell yeah that's the way it should be but is it realistic we'll get to that today
10:31at 10 48 because it applies to us here in detroit it is karshen anderson on 97 one
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