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Come To Your Census - Season 1 Episode 1
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00:01In 1926, Ireland conducted its first census as an independent nation.
00:08One hundred years later, the National Archives have made that census freely available online across the world.
00:17For this series, six of us, including myself, Eileen Walsh, have been given the privilege of opening these books
00:26and to reflect on some of the lives captured in those records a century later.
01:00Before it is digitised and made available online, the 1926 census is stored in a room.
01:08Thirteen hundred boxes, documenting nearly three million names.
01:13The entire country, in one room. It's very odd.
01:18So this is Leitrim. So these are the L's. Kilkenny.
01:26And every single person who lived in the country at the time is written on a line in here somewhere.
01:34Every single person.
01:35This is the first time we would have filled out these forms as an Irish state.
01:44Most people in the country will have family on these pages that they would have known.
01:51And they would have loved and they would have, you know, had as part of their lives.
01:57Amongst these boxes, one of us wants to look inside the entries for Cork City.
02:03Mick Lynch is Britain's most recognisable trade union leader.
02:07Born in London to Irish parents, he credits his father for shaping his sense of social justice and fairness.
02:15I got a passion from my dad. He was always a bit of a fighter.
02:19He was very committed about what trade union is and what solidarity is.
02:24You know, I wouldn't like to let him down on that score, so that's why we kept going.
02:29I know you were only sort of 16 when your dad died, so you probably didn't, you know, get a
02:34chance to know much as an adult.
02:36But I was just wondering what you're hoping to sort of find out when you go back to Cork.
02:41I want to find out about Gunpowder Lane, which is quite an evocative place, the place he was born.
02:45I'm told it was very run down. It would probably be called slums now.
02:51And also, my dad was called Jackie Lynch, and there was another fellow from across the river, across the river
02:58Lee, called Jack Lynch, who became the Taoiseach.
03:01I want to see why their lives developed in different ways.
03:07They always used to refer to Ireland as home. They didn't say, you're going back to Cork, you're going back
03:11to Cross McGlynn.
03:12They say, are you going home? But we were London. It's quite a strange thing.
03:16I suppose we had more of a London Irish identity than a British identity, which is still true.
03:20They were very patriotic in the naive sense of just being very devoted to the country.
03:27But my mother also said Ireland never did anything for me.
03:31And my dad, as far as I can remember, never expressed any interest in going back to Ireland.
03:39Down this way is where I used to live, which is an area called the Warwick Estate, which we moved
03:44into in 1962.
03:48We were living in the flat just across the road there, in the lower one.
03:53There were seven of us in there, four of us in the bedroom, and my sister had her own one,
03:57and my mum and dad had their bedroom.
04:01So this was the back of the estate. When we were kids, this was all open.
04:04It's always smaller than you imagine.
04:07You know, when we were kids, this seemed like a great big playground for us.
04:13Irish people here had their own churches, their own schools, their own music, their own pubs and all the rest
04:18of it.
04:19So we were a distinct element in the working class, but we weren't a separate element of the working class,
04:24if you know what I mean.
04:25And I think that was one of the strengths of London and many British cities, that Irish people could come,
04:31you could get work, and you could live a life that maybe you couldn't live in Ireland.
04:36My dad liked the community. I think he was affable, I think he was fairly popular, but I never really
04:44knew him as a man, so I was always a child.
04:46For me, he's more of a myth, I suppose.
04:54Jack Lynch, the Taoiseach, went on to the highest office of the state and very high profile.
05:00While half a million people of my dad's generation, and half a million people of the next generation, every ten
05:05years, Ireland was sending most of its people abroad, or very many of its people abroad.
05:10It had to shed people, and they shed them all over the world, which is now called the diaspora.
05:16I don't even know what diaspora means, but apparently I'm part of it.
05:19On the ship, I'm not even looking at the ocean, which means that I'm about at sea.
05:41Fuck, I'm not a lot of people here, and I shouldn't do the ocean, but I'm like, like what's the
05:43ocean?
05:44I speak in the ocean.
05:48I'm not a creature that exists in the ocean.
05:49It's been a long time for a long time.
05:53I'm not going to be able to do it.
05:54West of London, in East Connemara,
05:58broadcaster Gormla Ni Húrishc has her own questions of the 1926 census.
06:05I was going to be able to do it in Connemara
06:08with English and English.
06:11But I would like to know that
06:13when Connemara was in the 19th century
06:16I'd like to know that the light was bright and not to be able to find out.
06:23And even though I was very nervous about the 1928,
06:29the 1927 census.
06:31I thought it was becoming a very firm name in the 1929 census.
06:31I thought it was a positive name in the 1927 census.
06:34It was a very amazing name in it to the 1927 census.
06:40I plan to operate these in 1840 census.
06:43I plan to operate this new year in 1338.
06:47I was in the village.
06:50I was a man who was a kid.
06:52I was a man who was a man who was a man.
06:54I didn't want to get into the town.
06:57I got to look at him.
07:00I'm looking for him.
07:02I got my journey.
07:03I got a man.
07:04I got a man.
07:05I got a man.
07:06I got my friends to me.
07:36Girmla is with her brother Lachlin to learn more about their family's town.
07:41She'll be alone.
07:42And because she doesn't have to speak out to us, the big girl comes in.
07:46The most beautiful girl who is the one who Ésna, that's the very queen.
07:54She's a child who is telling me, the only girl who is a child who is a child.
08:04She doesn't know where she is, she's a child.
08:06She's a girl who is a child who is a child who is a child who is a child.
08:10You, I have.
08:11And you, you, do you have yourself?
08:12You, do you, yeah?
08:13Do you have someone?
08:13Yes, yes.
08:14I have to wash my hands.
08:17I have to wash my hands with you.
08:21You, I have to wash my skin.
08:25You can wash my hands and your hands.
08:28And I have to wash my hands and I have to wash my hands together.
08:32Do you have to wash my hands and wash your hands?
08:33Yes.
08:33Like, with my daddy's hands avant the rest of my children.
08:35And your boss.
08:37What, yes?
08:38and I don't know what to do.
08:40I think it's the fear of fear.
08:46I don't know how to get into that.
08:52I'm not sure how to get into that.
08:54I don't know how to get into that.
08:55I don't know how to get into that.
09:00I think it's a great thing to get into that.
09:03gallery because you listen at the
09:06corner is not a dimension of notation
09:08awesome with the felsom
09:11mmm
09:13more than into sheer as the
09:15Dola a wan in the senior her
09:18Sniffy day he law
09:21go victory as news can all
09:24last calls to Rudy's senior her
09:28good Donna up in Rudy's senior her
09:30a goalie good Donna
09:31I wasn't supposed to be the only person to get out of the way her situation.
09:38I'm the only one that I've never seen in my life.
09:45And I wasn't saying that.
09:48I wasn't seeing that.
09:49And I'm not sure about it.
09:50And I'm thinking about it and I'm counting on Sol,
09:52and I'm not!
09:54I'm not sure about it, but I was a boy.
09:56I wasn't really concerned about it.
10:02The National Archives is undertaking a major task, carefully restoring and preserving the
10:091926 census, bringing this fragile piece of Ireland's history to life.
10:15We have 2,496 bound volumes of census forms that we need to conserve prior to digitisation.
10:27That's over 700,000 forms. We're very conscious that with each page we lift and conserve, it's holding somebody's story.
10:39And Mick Lynch is one of the first people to look inside those books.
10:44He wants to see the census pages for his father's home, Gunpowder Lane, in Cork City.
10:52Well, you develop these pictures, don't you? I've never seen an actual photograph.
10:58Yeah, I've got a picture of these fairly poor, poor-conditioned housing, but they did continue living there for quite
11:07a while.
11:08People may have been very loyal to it and loyal to their neighbours and the community that they were in.
11:16There are many people that have got seven and eight people living in the household.
11:23They all seem to be Roman Catholic and none of them seem to have the Irish language from what I
11:30can see.
11:31They're all two-room houses.
11:36It's very obviously working class. You can only go by the occupations.
11:40Many of the people are labourers, out of work for six months.
11:44And that seemed to be fairly common.
11:47A key labourer, Dennis Regan, out of work for four years.
11:51So it must have been fairly hard.
11:53And wages would not have been high
11:55in a period where there's plenty of people out of work and looking for work.
12:01Now, here we have Lynch.
12:04So there's seven people, six children and a mother, Annie Lynch, who's my grandmother.
12:11And she was 41 years and 10 months.
12:14And her eldest daughter was 23, which is Mary, my auntie Molly.
12:20And she was helping her in the house.
12:22My uncle Paddy, who's 15 and a half, more or less, but already working as a leather sorter.
12:30Everybody else is still a school child, I suppose.
12:36And my dad, John Lynch, on this form, he was three years and eight months.
12:41And it says at this time, both parents alive.
12:45Which doesn't correspond with my understanding.
12:49I thought my grandfather had died in 1925.
12:55It says widow.
12:59But that's a bit of a conundrum.
13:02On hand to help Mick is Zoe Reid, the National Archives keeper of manuscripts.
13:09It's got down that both parents are alive.
13:12I know that that's not true, so.
13:13Yes, and obviously, Annie's put herself down as a widow.
13:17Yeah.
13:17So it is slightly inaccurate.
13:19Now, have you noticed anything else about the form that doesn't look as it perhaps should?
13:24So here you have, this is the guard.
13:26And so it was James Moraine and he's given his guard a number.
13:30Yeah.
13:31And here you have Annie Lynch.
13:34So it says, I declare that this schedule is correctly filled up to the best of my knowledge and belief.
13:40Signature of the household, Annie Lynch.
13:43But there is a little mark, which is a cross.
13:48And it says, her mark.
13:51So that would probably mean that she couldn't have filled this in because she was illiterate or couldn't write, at
13:56least.
13:57So the guard filled out the form and he made a couple of mistakes.
14:01Okay.
14:02Well, he's under pressure.
14:03He's under pressure.
14:04He should have been out arresting people, not filled it in forms.
14:07But I mean, it's just, it's a lovely, it tells so many, it tells so many stories.
14:13She was quite a character, I'm told.
14:15She was from another age, I think, even by the time the 60s came around.
14:20She looked and would have appeared like somebody from a different era entirely.
14:26And I suppose existing in a world where you don't speak, you don't read and write would have been a
14:31challenge.
14:32But I don't think that stopped her from being quite a high profile person in that district.
14:38What I think as well as a three year old with only one parent,
14:44and limited prospects, because you know what's coming after the, at the end of the 20s is the Great Depression.
14:52It would have been a struggle, I should think.
14:53And he did say to me, you know, it was a struggle.
14:57The only person that stayed in Ireland and in Cork was Molly, the older daughter.
15:02They all left, which was the nature of the, of Cork City at that time.
15:09I want to see the area.
15:10I understand that it's, it was cleared a while ago, but there may be some remnants of it.
15:16And we may be able to find out what it was actually like.
15:21Well, it's an unusual struggle for freedom in Ireland, because you had people who were not ideological.
15:28From my reading, they didn't seem to have a vision of what Ireland was going to be.
15:32It became an even more conservative country than it had been before under the British state,
15:38which is quite a remarkable achievement, really.
15:42You get independence and you actually, in some ways, take the country into an economic decline.
15:57Dermot Bannon is returning to a place very close to his heart.
16:02Modelligo, County Waterford.
16:05This is my granny's house.
16:08When I say house, I always saw it as a shop.
16:10There used to be a HB ice cream sign out here, and it was permanently left out here because
16:15granny's shop was open all the time.
16:17She was an integral part of the community when I was growing up.
16:20She was Modelligo.
16:21That's what she told me.
16:25This is where my dad grew up.
16:27So this is my dad's home place.
16:29When I think of old rural Ireland and what it was like and the kind of community and how people
16:36were,
16:37this for me was like a bridge to that.
16:41We came down here for every summer.
16:43This is where it all started.
16:44We still tell stories about, did you steal from granny's shop?
16:47I stole from granny's shop.
16:48What did you rob?
16:49I robbed everything, you know.
16:50So I would have spent a huge amount of my childhood down around here.
16:54And in Dungarvan, which is a couple of miles that way.
16:57And in Capaquin, where I had other cousins, which is a couple of miles that way.
17:04When we kind of look back in time, we talk about the big grand towns, we talk about the tenements.
17:10But if you took a cross section through this town of what I think is a very average Irish town
17:17for 100 years ago, what was it like?
17:22Dermot is beginning his search through the 1926 census.
17:26One of the earliest snapshots of an independent Ireland.
17:29In these pages, he hopes to uncover the character and personality here, as it was a century ago.
17:37This is Barrick Street.
17:39A lot of those houses have been demolished, and that was the kind of the town edge.
17:43It would all be in very small houses, 11, 12, 13, 14.
17:51Guess how many rooms?
17:5314 people living in a four-roomed house.
17:56It's a very, very, very busy street.
18:00They're all working locally as well.
18:02They're all labourers either on farms or they're working in the bacon factory.
18:06This is Thomas McCarthy.
18:07His eldest daughter is nine.
18:10The youngest is one.
18:11And he's retired.
18:12Oh, look, he's 66.
18:16He got busy later on in life, didn't he?
18:19This, for me, is now an opportunity to start to put names and people and families to the buildings.
18:33We'll go to Main Street.
18:36An insurance agent and a carpenter and a housekeeper.
18:40So these would have been a well-to-do family.
18:42Licensed vintner.
18:43So this is a business owner, 47 years.
18:47Thomas Griffin.
18:48Here's the next page, another licensed vintner.
18:5012 rooms.
18:51So they must have kept people as well.
18:54Or, wow, do you know, actually, I started on Barrick Street.
18:58Within a one-minute walk, the houses, the businesses are so much bigger.
19:02It's like there's two separate classes living cheek by jowl.
19:05Here's four people living in a 12-roomed house next to 12 people living in a four-roomed house,
19:12like three steps away.
19:20Dermot meets up with local historian Kevin McCarthy to get a better sense of what Capacuin was like 100 years
19:27ago.
19:28Capacuin was a very busy town in 1926.
19:32Things like the railway and the river would have been hugely important here.
19:36So for centuries and centuries, we were a river port.
19:40We used to export and import goods from Bristol particularly.
19:45But the railway also did was it brought visitors.
19:48It brought tourism in a way that probably never happened before.
19:51The big employer in situ in the town was certainly the bacon factory.
19:56Capacuin bacon factory, Capacuin bacon factory, Capacuin bacon factory.
20:04Built by the Keane family, Keane's were, I'm going to say homeless in 1926 actually,
20:10because Capacuin house, the home of the Keane's, had been destroyed by fire in 1923.
20:15The irregulars set fire to it because Sir John Keane had been deemed pro-treaty.
20:22Four kids, well they're not kids, they're 26, 20, I'm surprised, just looking through here,
20:31we kind of think this, you know, older kids living at home is a kind of a contemporary phenomenon,
20:37but there's an awful lot of single kids still living at home with parents back in 1926.
20:45Four, five, six kids, how many rooms?
20:52This says 15, that can't be right, can it?
20:5815 rooms. Keane's, that's the Keane's, that's John Keane.
21:05Ah, so these aren't kids at all, these are servants.
21:09So this is, this is the big house, and this really does stand out when you're, when you're,
21:13when you're looking through the book.
21:16There was an industrial school in Capacuin.
21:18Yeah, if you look there, yeah, right beside the railway station.
21:19It was right in the centre of the town.
21:21Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would have opened in the 1870s.
21:23So the industrial schools are a legacy from our British past.
21:28But the irony is that in 1926, there were more kids in Ireland in industrial schools
21:33than there were in the whole of the United Kingdom,
21:35which had a population at least seven times greater than us.
21:42In search of Gunpowder Lane, Mick is retracing the streets of Cork, where his father would have walked as a
21:49child.
21:51So we're on the corner of 98th Street, which was Hospital Lane.
21:55Into the buildings behind here was Gunpowder Lane and a few other lanes.
21:59My dad used to speak about it when he was a youngster.
22:02And this whole area was where he grew up and where he scrabbled around,
22:06and tried to emerge from whatever life court gave him and came to us.
22:11But yeah, it's fairly evocative, I think.
22:19First impressions are that the lanes were obliterated.
22:23I don't know if the housing was that decrepit or they'd just reached their end life.
22:39I've got an iPad with an old map of the area,
22:42and Gunpowder Lane would have run directly across here.
22:46And we think number 10 on the census would have been somewhere dead in the middle.
22:50The front doors would have been where I am here,
22:52and then the houses would have gone that way up towards Bandon Road.
22:57So that's about as close as I can get.
22:59I think we found it.
23:05But these council or corporation flats that came up are now,
23:09ironically, it looks like they're getting ready for demolition.
23:11So they didn't last that long.
23:16So my dad on the census would have been three years and eight months just coming up to four.
23:21In some senses, he was a free state baby, I suppose.
23:24He was born in August 22, and the free state finally got crystallized in December,
23:30I think, of that year.
23:31So he was born into what was supposed to be a new island.
23:34But I'm not sure it delivered that for him.
23:37It delivered, you know, migration.
23:39But maybe that was what he wanted to do.
23:41It's easy to blame the state.
23:42It's easy to blame circumstances.
23:45But some people want to go, don't they?
23:46And that's the, you know, there's always a motivation like that,
23:49to see what the world's like outside.
23:54It's a shame that heritage has been lost.
23:56So in Cork City, you'd never know that Gunpowder Lane was there,
23:59and the other lanes that were around.
24:02So that's a bit of a shame.
24:03We've got a lump of tarmac instead of a landmark
24:06that we might have had to preserve that bit of history.
24:17Girmla is keen to learn more about the poverty and immigration
24:21that shaped life in Connemara.
24:25Girmla is keen to learn more about the poverty and immigration that has been lost.
24:37Number of rooms occupied by each family.
24:40Do, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, tri, do, tri, do.
24:45But in Cork City, they said Cork City,
24:50so it's meant that it's called
24:56a thing to listen to.
24:56The reader said Cork City,
24:57Cougar, cougar,
24:58cougar,
24:58cougar,
24:58truer,
24:59cougar,
24:59cougar,
25:00I said that....
25:02And I think I was場ite,
25:05someone said,
25:07they were not allowed.
25:08And even then I thought it was the only thing to say
25:11I eat at the time,
25:13the way the majority of my ass pequenas
25:13died before me.
25:13It's me.
25:15There are many farmers and home duties.
25:19And I don't want to be able to do anything else.
25:22And I want to tell you about assisting farm work.
25:25Assisting on brother's farm.
25:27Assisting on father's farm.
25:30I want to be able to do things
25:34that I have to do in my life.
25:39And I want to be able to do things.
25:42I want to be able to do things.
25:47Five acres.
25:50Ten acres.
25:52Eight acres.
25:55Nine acres.
25:57Eleven acres.
25:59Her search has become personal.
26:06She's now turning to her own family records.
26:11I'm not an artist.
26:16I'm only going to be able to do things like that.
26:18But I'm not enough to get into it.
26:20I'm not even going to make sure I'll do things like that.
26:24I have all that.
26:27I don't want to do things like that.
26:33I don't want to make sure that it's a job.
26:33All that I need to be able to do things like that.
26:39That's what I'm doing.
26:41But there's a lot of people here.
26:43There's a lot of people here.
26:47And there's a lot of people here.
26:52When you're in Greece,
26:55you're in the middle.
26:58Oh, you're not in the middle of the middle.
27:02You're not in the middle of it.
27:05You're not in the middle.
27:07None of us would be better.
27:10If you're in the middle of the middle,
27:13You're in the middle of it.
27:19If you're in the middle of it.
27:22You're in the middle of it.
27:28You're in the middle of it.
27:30And some are having.
27:41I've taken to Dine Regassi where I go.
27:46I'm going to go and go and go.
28:02Who's my father?
28:12What are you doing?
28:16I have a very special feeling.
28:19My heart is a very special feeling.
28:26What is your heart, your heart?
28:29...and I would like to thank you for being here.
28:38It's a privilege to be here.
28:43It's a privilege to be here...
28:45...and I have a privilege to be here...
28:50...and...
28:52...when I was here...
28:55...and I would like to be here...
29:00...when I came to play...
29:03...for me.
29:04And I was constantly...
29:06...and I thought that...
29:07...it was not what it had to be.
29:09I had never imagined...
29:11...I wanted to say to myself...
29:12...to learn from my life...
29:15...and...
29:16...it was a very hard time.
29:26Nick has arranged to meet with his cousins to discuss what he has discovered in the census
29:31records about their family so we've been looking at the census from 1926 as you know and this is
29:38the result for our family in gunpowder lane so all the people that we expected to be there
29:44are there which is good news i suppose so your mum mary lynch my auntie molly is there and then
29:52my
29:52dad john who's known as jackie to all of us uh he was just under four years old annie lynch
30:00annie
30:00mcsweeney we've got a couple of still pictures of her it's later in her life i imagine it's in the
30:0560s she looks like she's from another age compared to us she is even in 1966 she's from another did
30:11you feel that she was like that or did you feel she was more of a a real person rather
30:16than just
30:16the picture you'd get no she was a real person a very real person very well spoken yeah very well
30:24read she taught me how to read and i was i was sat in the reading about four and a
30:28half yeah but at
30:30this time she wasn't able to read herself yeah but she learned she learned later she did that's
30:35remarkable she had um the life in times of daniel o'connell really with that thing yeah i always
30:44remember it but she went on to learn to read later oh she was a great reader that's tremendous
30:53what was that like as a community it was brilliant there's no kid in there with short
30:58of food coming out of school yeah somebody came up with it even if it's only slice of bread
31:03like do you did you get a sense that it was a struggle or did you it was a big
31:07struggle it
31:08meant everybody struggled to make yeah money make money you know but in some ways the community made
31:13up for that they did everybody because i said to everybody helped one on the road but now this is
31:19all former cap they've knocked it down in the 60s all of this block here that you lived on but
31:26our
31:26history and the struggles of your mum and yourselves and and granny and all these people on there there's
31:32no mark all we've got to remember our family is a lumber plumber they just ran they just ran it
31:35on
31:47it's hard to really explain just how much is involved i think the general public they'll open a
31:55beautiful image they'll be able to download a lovely color pdf but they won't realize how many hands have
32:01been through the cataloguing the conservation the digitization dermot bannon continues to explore
32:09the census records for kappa quin the place he's using as an example of a typical irish town in 1926
32:17mary o'brien 57 widow before this census uh there was world war one there was the spanish flu there
32:26was
32:27war of independence and then there was the civil war it's not surprising that there's uh a lot of
32:34people described as widows but to see it written down uh on page after page after page that they were
32:40widows um upon widows upon widows it's very weird because it's it's there's life here there's life in
32:49these pages um and it kind of commands a respect maybe it's the fact that it's handwritten sometimes
32:58it's the handwriting catches you as uh unusual or a word um jumps out it's the human element for me
33:07looking at it looking at these people looking at their jobs where they worked for me the thing that
33:13would make me stop would be you'd see lists of names pages and pages and pages and you'd say what's
33:19that and a lot you know these would be institutions they would be military barracks or mother and baby
33:25homes orphanages so this section here is for the industrial school in kappa quin which was there was
33:36industrial schools all over the country so this is a slice of what a part of ireland was like
33:42everywhere what's different about this census compared to the previous census uh previously
33:48everybody was just a number this now has got names wow god
33:57this is these are all the borders um so five six six six eight six five eight god they're tiny
34:11i don't know why i just thought in an industrial school they would be teenagers they're not they're
34:17like they're five and six they're from tipperary watford watford city tremorde and garvin carrick
34:26in tripperary father is dead mother is dead father is dead both parents dead
34:37god there's a guy here now and both parents are alive
34:44and he's in an industrial school and what like he's five
34:50god there's a guy here now and then i said why
35:20what where their parents are and where they came from it it tells so much like why
35:27was dennis murphy who is from sligo with both his parents still alive
35:35sent to an industrial school at the age of four you don't even send kids to school at four anymore
35:44god almighty richard costell two years of age
35:52in an industrial school god he could barely walk
36:00girmla wants to discover whether her home in unlock an bug shares the same history as other
36:06parts of ireland's atlantic coast she visits the town of carna set in a remote
36:12corner of connemara
36:15she had shepard or oh mellowed
36:18the gusano tom meloed fós fós a górna
36:21agus kid fichichar acra aga so
36:25nice muna fi egilio rella shopkeeper ele anna shneti warren astoai
36:32shopkeeper ele gwardi ordi orin hileagun shepard i laga górna
36:36wintiri ocho ra trichado acra
36:40he is bala gnóis leed pál górna
36:42shachtu cúig acra
36:46aga lior in shatá saach ráhúl
36:53he is bala bryo fós a
36:56Because this means a lot to put together in the same clothes,
37:00even in the same clothes,
37:02even in the same clothes,
37:03and it doesn't work hard to be polished.
37:09And as to what I'm thinking,
37:12I'm thankful for my generation
37:14and my generation is ...
37:15Lions, they are not going to work.
37:19And it's true that
37:21it's over,
37:24it's over,
37:25There is a place where the school is going.
37:28And not only does it seem like the people
37:32are still here.
37:34I think it's time for people to come.
37:37There is a place where people are going.
37:41There is no place where people are going.
37:55Connemara.
38:25need to make the world as much as possible.
38:28I do not want to know if I have a lot of work in the world, but not even working.
38:32Because every day there will be a lot of work that is going .
38:37You are getting into work on the word of the Somalia when you are back,
38:43and if you are talking to a lot of work, you will be doing a lot of work.
38:45You will be talking to me.
38:54There's nothing to do with the war.
38:57But the law of 1967, the government committee,
39:02and the time that they have been in theUmpa,
39:04they didn't take care of them.
39:06As a matter of time, they say,
39:10they're running like a bubble...
39:12...and not just a bubble.
39:13And if the doctor was dying, not the food,
39:16that the doctor came out so they began to leave.
39:18They took the bubble off and they took the time.
39:23I'm not sure what they're doing.
39:26We have our own family but we're right here.
39:32We're real.
39:40I'm not sure what they're doing.
39:44We're not sure what they're doing.
39:47I'm not sure what they're doing.
39:50I'm not sure what they're doing.
39:51There was so much time in the financial nation...
39:56...and there were four people in the world.
39:59Even more days, it was long-term.
40:03And it was nice.
40:05But what I was talking about today at the other end...
40:09...lending when I was in the UK...
40:12...after the day I was in the UK.
40:13I was like, I know when I was in the UK.
40:17I was like, I was like...
40:19When I was young, when I was young, when I was young, I was young and I was young and
40:26I was young and I was young and I was young and I was young and I was young.
40:35Mick wants to find out about another Cork man that shares his father's name, former Taoiseach Jack Lynch.
40:42So this is the entry for the north side of the city and this one is around Shandon Church.
40:51So we'll look at number one where the head of the household is Daniel Lynch and there are in total
41:0011 people living in this house.
41:02And his occupation was as a tailor.
41:06This is a very good hand, you can tell if Daniel Lynch has written this himself.
41:11It's definitely not the hand of the enumerator.
41:14It seems to be fairly prosperous.
41:18They've got two in-laws living with them who are quite elderly.
41:20Neither of those work for a living.
41:24There are 11 people and they've got five rooms, which is a bit better but no less crowded, I would
41:30have thought.
41:30All of the children are all at school.
41:33The oldest son, Timothy Lynch, who's nearly 16, is still at school.
41:38I don't think that would have been the case for the Lynch's in Gunpowder Lane.
41:42So if all of these other children went on to secondary education, they would have perhaps had better chances in
41:49terms of staying in Ireland and making a life here.
41:53So we're at Jack Lynch's house and there's a couple of plaques and of course most people will know he
41:59was a great sportsman for Cork.
42:02Six All-Ireland titles and he became the Taoiseach on two occasions and a government minister.
42:08And I think I'd say that there's a different house to the one we imagined down in Gunpowder Lane.
42:15I do think the key difference can be seen, the levels of wealth and then the levels of aspiration that
42:23his family must have had.
42:25It's great that it's memorialised and there's plaques here and Cork people are very proud of what Jack Lynch achieved.
42:33I'm proud of him as well, I think, as a son of Cork in some ways.
42:39I think what my parents are very proud about is they kept us on the straight and narrow, which I
42:44suppose is what Annie Lynch did for her kids.
42:47So my kids have got an opportunity that my parents didn't have for university and all of that.
42:53But I think it's important to remember there's a lot of stuff about migration in Ireland, in Britain, in Europe
42:58and globally.
42:59But all those migrant people are trying to give themselves and their descendants, their families and their communities an opportunity.
43:07And I think we've got to remember that.
43:21I think they've got to remember that.
43:26I think it's the same thing, as a family member.
43:28I think the same thing that my parents are doing, and I think they're going to be on the ballot.
43:30They're going to be on the ballot in the ballot.
43:32And so they're going to be on the ballot, that's what they're going to do.
43:38Do you have any time to say anything about that?
43:43No, no.
43:44How did you say that?
43:46It was 1928.
43:48I don't think it was a relic anyway.
43:50So it was not a relic.
43:54And then...
43:55How did you say that in Belgrade?
43:58How did you say that?
44:00It was 1929.
44:031929.
44:04Did you smile as a miracle?
44:06Yes, 1929.
44:07How did you smile as a miracle?
44:09And you were talking about it.
44:12Yes, 1930.
44:15How did you smile?
44:17In 1946.
44:19I was a little girl and I was a little girl.
44:21I was a little girl.
44:23So I was a little girl and I was a little girl.
44:26No.
44:28You were a little girl and I was a little girl.
44:31I was a little girl and I was a little girl.
44:33So I was a little girl.
44:39And that was really kind.
44:40So you're really bad about your life?
44:42Yes.
44:44No.
44:44You're still alive?
44:45Yes, yes.
44:47Yes.
44:48Yes.
44:48I didn't have to be alive.
44:51I was like...
44:52I didn't want to give up.
44:54I was like...
44:54I didn't want to give up.
44:56What are we going to do?
44:58I was a kid, and I was a kid.
45:01I was a kid.
45:02I was a kid.
45:04I was a kid.
45:27the landlord, but it also had the industrial school.
45:32This was Ireland of 1926.
45:36Like, it was how children were cared for by the state.
45:47Well, it's been a good experience,
45:48getting the hands on the records
45:50and seeing firsthand what was going on.
45:54It was great to hear that, somebody who couldn't fill
45:56in the census form themselves,
45:58was able to get themselves literate late in life,
46:01was able to read to people and teach them some lessons in life
46:06and use all her experience.
46:09Maybe that is a sign of progress.
46:13But I do feel what was reinforced that the Free State
46:16didn't get on initially with what they needed to do,
46:19and it took a very long time to get this country moving,
46:22to address the needs of the common people,
46:24which what, from my point of view,
46:26is what the national struggle should have been about.
46:30A census should be about taking a record of where you are,
46:34a sense check of where you are at the minute,
46:37getting some data about the problems,
46:39and then it should be about getting some answers to those problems
46:42and moving the country forward.
46:45But I'm not sure the one in 1926 achieved that aim.
46:56Start.
46:57No.
46:59Or on there had five in the Iacoblachol English English,
47:02and it was five water in the Iacoblachol English,
47:04and it was five water in the Iacoblachol.
47:06or a very large in the Iacoblachol English,
47:11and it was five water in the Iacoblachol.
47:13The first day I was working,
47:17and I was working on a lot of things,
47:21and I got to know that I had to be able to do it.
47:26I was not sure that I could do it.
47:32I would not know that I could do it.
47:32And I would not know that I could do it.
47:36It was a very difficult time for us to be able to live in the winter.
47:42And I think that's what we're doing.
47:46We're not going to be able to live in the future.
47:50We're not going to be able to live in the winter.
48:05In the next episode, yours truly, along with author Joseph O'Connor and radio presenter
48:12Louise Duffy, get her own look at the 1926 census.
48:16Join us as we uncover some of the stories hidden in those records.
48:22And maybe learn something new about ourselves along the way.
48:30If you've been affected by any of the issues raised in this program, you can find a list of help
48:35and support services at rte.ie forward slash support.
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