00:00Hey Chuck, what's going on?
00:01What's going on, Eric? How are you?
00:03I'm good. I'm sorry we're meeting this way.
00:05I know you probably wanted to make it a little further,
00:07but you know, expect the unexpected. It is Big Brother.
00:09Expect the unexpected, Eric.
00:11I thought I was going to be there a little bit longer,
00:13a little bit longer, truly, depending on how my gameplay was going.
00:16I knew it was going to be a little bit longer, so we're here and it's okay.
00:20Well, we've got a lot of talk about.
00:21Just first, overall, how are you doing?
00:23You've been out of the house for a couple days.
00:25How's your mindset?
00:26I feel so good, right?
00:27I could feel while being in the house that, man, like, this is a tough house, right?
00:33Like, you're locked in with these people, essentially, you know, 24-7, blind feeds.
00:37You're constantly trying to game plan.
00:39You're constantly trying to see who's lying to you, who's being deceitful.
00:42But being out has been so refreshing.
00:44Seeing family, seeing friends, seeing the reception to my gameplay.
00:48People calling me boring.
00:49People saying, why were you in there?
00:51What were you doing?
00:52And I'm like, guys, I did get a little...
00:55I was kind of relaxing and chilling.
00:58And so it has just been phenomenal seeing the responses, because they truly kind of do make me laugh.
01:02And I'm like, there's something where I'm like, hey, I kind of agree with you guys.
01:05So were you surprised that people were calling you boring?
01:08My family and friends are like, Chuck, who were you in there?
01:11Like, that is not your personality.
01:12But going into this game, I did not want to be the bubbly, cheery guy that I usually am when
01:18I'm outside the house.
01:19I just didn't want that niceness to be taken for granted.
01:22And I know in this game, there's so much money.
01:25There's so much money up for grabs, right?
01:27$750,000.
01:28I came into it with a little bit too much of a level of seriousness to where I couldn't be
01:33bubbly.
01:33I couldn't be like super charismatic.
01:35I did not want anything to be taken for granted.
01:38And I'm someone who I love a lot.
01:40And I just didn't want anything to be taken for granted.
01:42So I kind of came in there with just this more serious, not being playful attitude in America's song.
01:50And they had their comments.
01:52I said, oh, my God.
01:53Big Brother fans always have opinions.
01:55I'm sure you're learning that.
01:56I love them because it's so funny.
01:57And I don't take a lot of things too hurtful.
02:00I do have to be thick skin.
02:02So a lot of these things.
02:03My parents created essentially like this photo album of all these memes and these things you've ever said.
02:11I was just laughing because I'm like, bro, they thought I was boring and they thought I did nothing.
02:16And I'm like, you know what?
02:16If that's the things they have to say about me, you know, I'll take it.
02:21And it's okay.
02:22It's truly okay.
02:23I love the fans.
02:24They're fun.
02:25You know, when you left the house, you weren't, you didn't have good feelings
02:28towards Lala and Taylor specifically.
02:30Has your feelings about them changed, whether more positively, more negatively?
02:34How do you feel about them sitting here right now?
02:35Yeah, I'm someone like, you guys don't understand.
02:38The minute I saw Julie, I've never been so happy to see someone removed getting out of that house.
02:44Yeah.
02:44I saw Julie and I was so happy.
02:46All the animosity towards your house guests.
02:49I wish America understood that it just dissipates when you walk out.
02:53My feelings for Lala, I can't even fake that I'm angry that she put me on the block, right?
02:58Towards that week three, week four, you guys saw me like,
03:03just like there, right?
03:05So I can't even be mad, right?
03:07And then my feelings for Taylor, those are in the house.
03:10Those are comments in the house.
03:11You can't be mad.
03:12I don't, I just don't hold, I don't hold grudges.
03:16And for me, it's truly just like, yeah, they dissipated to where I don't have any negative things to say.
03:23What about Kamu?
03:24Because that was your guy in the house.
03:26And ultimately, he kind of jumped off the sinking ship, if you will.
03:28That was you and Haley, and he kind of found another way to maneuver through the game.
03:32How do you feel about him and the way he kind of abandoned you and Haley?
03:35In the moment, it was so hurtful, right?
03:37Because you can feel your guy is distancing himself from you, right?
03:42And you, you know, me and Haley.
03:44And so in the moment, it definitely hurt because it's like, man, what's going on?
03:49Are you starting to believe the other side, right?
03:51But then when you leave the house again, you are like, hey, that guy knows how to play the game.
03:56I watched the minimum of his show.
03:58He watches, like, essentially, I feel like you've seen every season.
04:01He knows how to play the game.
04:02He knows how to pivot.
04:04That was something I struggled to do and did not want to do, right?
04:08I didn't want to pivot.
04:09I didn't want to change a line.
04:10I didn't want to form many alliances with people I didn't trust.
04:13And that's a part of the game.
04:14And I couldn't do that.
04:15But he's able to do that, right?
04:17He's able to see, you guys are kind of maybe on a hot seat.
04:20I need to kind of pivot my game.
04:23And he's doing that.
04:24And he's still someone who I see getting really far.
04:27But I can tell people are trying to come for my guy.
04:30Yeah, we might have some craziness coming up in that house.
04:32But Chuck, we have to wrap.
04:34But I really appreciate you taking the time.
04:36And listen, if they call you boring, there's much worse things that could be said.
04:39I would rather be called boring because my people know how I really am.
04:43I'll take that.
04:44Please, please call me boring.
04:45I love it.
04:46The fans are great.
04:47They are truly a pleasure, especially the good comments.
04:49They truly just make my day.
04:51I'm excited.
04:52Eric, it's been a freaking pleasure, dude.
04:54Thank you, Chuck.
04:54Have a good one.
04:55You have a good one, too.
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