00:00Tony Vitello, I kind of liked what I heard from him over the weekend
00:06with regard to especially yesterday's game.
00:10And who cares about yesterday's game except for from this perspective?
00:15I don't care if you lose to the Rockies even at this point.
00:20It doesn't matter.
00:21But Tony's right.
00:24This was embarrassing.
00:25I can't even recount, there was one inning where it went something like walk, walk, wild pitch.
00:33Hit by pitch.
00:34Hit by pitch.
00:35Walk, walk.
00:38I don't know, did someone get pantsed?
00:40I mean, it just.
00:40There was a single in there.
00:42Somebody got a base hit.
00:43I was like, what in the hell are you all doing out there?
00:48And I appreciated Tony being like, that was not Major League Baseball.
00:54That, like, that doesn't count for Major League Baseball.
00:58And I know that the snap response is, well, give a manager minor league baseball players
01:04and you'll get a minor league baseball game, which is kind of what broke out.
01:08But check it out.
01:11Here's Tony V on how sloppy the whole thing was yesterday.
01:14Yeah, it was sloppy.
01:16It was more, I mean, no discredit to some of the great work position players.
01:22Rafi starts the game with great base running.
01:26Obviously, more of the highlight was the home run.
01:28But for me, with him, with that, some of their guys, I think, are really promising athletes
01:34and they had good at-bats.
01:35But it had more of the feel of a lower level, a junior college game as opposed to a big
01:40league game
01:41with how some of the things transpired.
01:43And I was a JUCO guy, so I'm not disrespected junior college.
01:47I mean, you are, but...
01:49I know.
01:50Yeah.
01:51Just straight from Tennessee, like he wouldn't call it a college game.
01:54Had to call it a junior college game.
01:56Right.
01:56And he didn't want to call it a minor league game because he doesn't know what a minor league
01:59game looks like because he wasn't in the minors.
02:02But top of the sixth, there was a walk, a bunt into a fielder's choice, a walk, a ground out,
02:09and then Brubaker comes in, a wild pitch, a walk, a walk, a hit-by-pitch, and then here
02:18comes San Martin, and he gives up another hit.
02:21Next thing you know, four runs on two hits and a bunch of walks and a hit-by-pitch and
02:27a wild pitch and, yeah.
02:29Did they walk 10 people, all told, yesterday?
02:3110.
02:3210 walks.
02:34That's so gross.
02:35Right?
02:35That's so gross.
02:36Like, there's nothing in a big league game that is, to me, more embarrassing than when
02:43a line of pitchers literally, like, you can't even throw strikes.
02:47Look, sometimes you're going to get shelled, but you can't find the strike zone.
02:54It's just, and okay, I'm wild, you know, once a month.
03:00Look at me, I'm wild.
03:00No, but like, oh, I didn't have it today.
03:02But this just consistent line of seemingly pitchers who have no plan, no idea exactly
03:11how to execute it, walking people all over the place.
03:15I love what Tony Vee said.
03:17Apparently there was a big team meeting.
03:20Blade Tidwell, who started the game, had this to say about it.
03:24How often times did you address the team at the end of the season in general?
03:28Just conviction.
03:30Have conviction in everything you do.
03:31Obviously, seeing him address teams plenty of times, how would you kind of evaluate his
03:37message, you know, based on kind of your knowledge of him?
03:40I think he did a good job.
03:42Everybody was locked in, and the guys were nodding their heads and stuff, so I think
03:46everybody was on board with what he was saying.
03:49That's great.
03:51That's great.
03:52I'm stoked that everybody was nodding their heads.
03:55That's awesome.
03:56Right.
03:56I mean, everyone was nodding their heads, and I can't help but think about the divide
04:01that's going on.
04:02If you're a vet, and you're making massive money, and you're going through this season,
04:06you're probably more focused on your own at-bats and your own thing than you are, I don't
04:11know, trying to pick up River San Martin when he's going through a struggle, or Brubaker,
04:17whom he faced, he threw 13 pitches, he walked two, and he allowed two earned runs.
04:23No one got a hit off him.
04:24How many of the 13 pitches were strikes?
04:26Four.
04:27Four.
04:28How many?
04:28Four.
04:29And, yeah, you give up two earned runs without giving up a hit, nor did you get anybody out.
04:35So, yeah.
04:36Here's why I play the Blade Tidwell thing.
04:39Blade is a young guy, and that's a tough interview for him.
04:45So, like, you know, how'd you feel about the team meeting?
04:48Well, everybody was nodding their head.
04:50So, I think we're locked in.
04:52I think we get it.
04:55Y'all have no idea.
04:57They clearly have no idea.
04:58And the reason they have no idea is because they're all babies.
05:02And, of course, Tony Bitello is going to be back next year.
05:05You can't fire manager every year.
05:07It's incredibly embarrassing.
05:09There is a lot of learning on the job going on right now, and guess what?
05:13Now the learning on the job is not just at the managerial position and the president of
05:17baseball operations.
05:18Guess where else it is?
05:20Third base?
05:21Shortstop?
05:22Second base?
05:23Centerfield?
05:23Left field?
05:25Catcher?
05:25Yeah.
05:26Yeah.
05:27They're all learning on the job.
05:29The Giants will never use this word, and they won't tell you.
05:32The Giants are in a rebuild.
05:34It's already started.
05:36I actually went to AI, Dibs, and I asked, could you, even though I know some of the answers,
05:42could you please pass along what are the noted characteristics of a rebuild?
05:49Listen to what came up, and you tell me if this sounds like the San Francisco Giants.
05:55First characteristic, trading veterans.
05:59Yeah.
06:00Any trades of veterans recently?
06:02Yep.
06:03Okay.
06:05Maximizing control.
06:07The focus shifts to players who are under cheap, team-controlled contracts for multiple
06:15upcoming seasons.
06:17Well, they don't really have that, because they have these contracts that they would rather
06:21not control.
06:22But they want that, and they tried like hell to do that, didn't they?
06:26I guess, but I mean, you've got Devers, Adamas, and Chapman who are under team control, but
06:31you don't want to be under team control of those guys.
06:34No, exactly.
06:34But Chapman got hurt.
06:36Adamas, as we are finding out, playing poorly, hurt, overpaid.
06:40Rafi Devers, highly shopped at the deadline.
06:43Didn't do it.
06:44Wonder if the offers were absolutely just a joke.
06:48CBA negotiations are on the way.
06:50If I'm a team going into this situation, no way in hell.
06:54Like, sure, I'll take Rafi Devers.
06:56We'll do a million a year of his salary.
06:59I wonder if those were the conversations.
07:01And the Giants are like, well, we can't do that.
07:04But my sense right now is if they're shopping Rafi this hard this year, why would they not
07:12do it even harder next year?
07:13One more year will be off the books.
07:16In theory, the CBA negotiations will have taken shape.
07:20And so will Bryce Eldridge's career.
07:23I think the Giants will try even harder to ship out Rafi Devers by next July.
07:30And I don't think they're going to do that under any circumstance to Tony Vitello, which
07:33is why I said earlier, if I did who's with the Giants longer, Vitello or Devers, I'll
07:40take Tony.
07:41Yes, I'm taking Rafi because I don't believe that the ownership is going to have the stomach
07:47or the stones or the wallet to do what needs to be done to get rid of Rafi Devers and
07:52his
07:53contract.
07:53I just don't see that.
07:54I think that they're interested in making money, in breaking even, in buying theaters
07:59and building skyscrapers.
08:00And so if you look at Rafi Devers' contract, and yeah, he's got an OPS of almost 800 now
08:06after a horrific April and a shaky May in the beginning.
08:11And he's turned out to be the player that you thought that he would be.
08:14And yet the things about him continue to kind of linger.
08:18Whether or not he's a bad clubhouse guy, or he's not a full-on team guy, whatever it
08:25is, I think that Boston, when they got rid of his contract, they were lightweight, thrilled.
08:29A couple other characteristics.
08:32You tell me, does this sound like the Giants?
08:34Stockpiling prospects.
08:36Yeah.
08:36Oh, yeah.
08:37International focus.
08:39Big time.
08:42Testing fan patience.
08:45Well, I mean, yeah, it's been tested.
08:48Redefining success.
08:49Progress is measured by individual player growth rather than wins and losses.
08:54Well, yeah, I mean, because wins and losses don't matter.
08:57You're what, 22 below?
08:58The Giants are over.
09:00The Giants are in a rebuild.
09:01They're trying, but they can't fully rebuild because they've got these albatross contracts.
09:06But we're just getting started.
09:07They're just getting started.
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