00:04Mr. Cook, in 2008, Barack Obama ran against John McCain.
00:09Who won that election?
00:12I believe President Obama was sworn into office, so I'm certain he won, Senator.
00:20And John McCain lost that election?
00:22Yes, Senator.
00:24Four years later, Barack Obama ran against Mitt Romney.
00:27Who won that election?
00:31President Obama was sworn into office, so I'm certain he was elected as a matter of law, Senator.
00:37And did Romney lose the election?
00:40That's the natural, logical converse of that, yes.
00:46In 2016, Donald Trump ran against Hillary Clinton.
00:49Who won that election?
00:50He was sworn into office, so as a matter of law, he was elected to that office, Senator.
00:56So Donald Trump won that election?
00:59That would be the natural assumption, yes, Senator.
01:03Well, is it really an assumption you have to make?
01:06Did Donald Trump defeat Hillary Clinton?
01:09In the Electoral College, he did, yes, Senator.
01:11Do you have some uncertainty about whether he won that election?
01:14No, I'm trying to be precise about what I'm saying.
01:16Yes, he won in the Electoral College because...
01:19And Joe Biden in 2020, well, in the 2020 election, who won between Donald Trump and Joe Biden?
01:31Well, Joe Biden was certified by a joint session of Congress, and so as a matter of law, he was
01:37the elected president.
01:38But as a matter of fact, who won that election?
01:41He was...
01:42We implement the 12th Amendment, and under that, he was elected...
01:47As a matter of fact, who won that election?
01:49Just as a simple matter of fact.
01:51Somebody asked you out on the street, who won the election in 2020?
01:55What would your answer be?
01:57Who won?
01:58And who lost?
01:58I would say, as a matter of law, he was elected, Senator.
02:02And as a matter of fact?
02:05That...
02:05You're somehow separating the law and facts.
02:07As a matter of actual fact, who won the election in 2020?
02:10It's a fact that the Electoral College vote was more for Joe Biden.
02:17You seem to have real difficulty with that question.
02:19In 2024, Donald Trump ran against Kamala Harris.
02:22Who won that election?
02:24President Trump had more Electoral College votes,
02:27and so the Joint Session Congress certified him as the winner.
02:30So Donald Trump won that election?
02:32As a matter of law, he was elected, Senator.
02:34And Kamala Harris lost that election?
02:36That was the converse, yes, Senator.
02:39And Mr. Kandeb, in 2016, when Donald Trump ran against Hillary Clinton,
02:45who won that election?
02:49Donald Trump was certified as winner by the United States Congress.
02:54Did he, in fact, win?
02:55He was certified as winner.
02:57Did he, in fact, win?
02:59He was certified as winner.
03:00Do you have some doubt about whether he won?
03:02Well, under our constitutional structure, it is the states that have...
03:06My question is, do you have some doubt about the outcome?
03:08I have no doubt that the U.S. Congress certified Donald Trump...
03:12No, I don't ask you that question.
03:14Do you have any doubt that Donald Trump won the election?
03:16I have no doubt that under our constitutional structure...
03:19Well, that's really not my question.
03:22In 2020, who won the election?
03:28The United States Congress certified...
03:31Why is it difficult for you to answer a simple, factual question about who won presidential elections?
03:36When did it become so difficult to answer such a simple question?
03:42And how can we expect you to rely on the facts when you're evaluating a case?
03:52Mr. Cook, when you're evaluating a merger?
03:55Mr. Kandeb, how do we expect...
03:57How can we expect you to rely on the facts when you have such difficulty staving the obvious?
04:07Mr. Kandeb, when you met with my staff yesterday, you said you stood by your previous comments,
04:15including op-eds you wrote for white nationalist websites like Vidare.
04:21In one of those, in an article titled Immigration and Three Twitchy Jewish Nerves,
04:26you stated, quote,
04:27Muslim immigrants and their children seem prone, not only to terrorism, but to cultural separatism.
04:34Do you stand by that statement?
04:39Senator, I wrote that article in defense of Donald Trump's travel ban, which I thought was essential.
04:44Mr. Well, that's not my question.
04:45My question is, you told my staff you stood by your previous statements.
04:48Do you stand by that one?
04:50I stand by those articles.
04:51They were defenses against terrorism.
04:54So you stand by that statement.
04:55So what do you mean that Muslim immigrants and their children are prone to terrorism?
05:04I wrote those articles...
05:06I'm not asking you...
05:07You already said you stand by that statement.
05:09So what do you mean by that?
05:11I'm trying to explain.
05:13I wrote those articles in defense of Donald Trump's travel ban, which is to protect us against terrorism.
05:19And I thought that terrorism is, continues to be a tremendous threat to all Americans.
05:25And you think that Muslim immigrants and their children are somehow prone to terrorism?
05:32I wrote in support of the travel ban.
05:35I'm aware of why you wrote the article.
05:37My question is, and I would like an answer, do you stand by your statement that Muslim immigrants and their
05:45children seem prone to terrorism?
05:46I stand by the article I wrote, the travel ban was being...
05:52Well, then that's all I need to know.
05:54I yield back.
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