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Kapunan expounds on 'scam' remark over Duterte's confidential funds

House prosecution counsel Lorna Kapunan on Aug. 4, 2026 expounds on her use of the word 'scam' to describe Vice President Sara Duterte's confidential funds, saying the alleged misuse of P612 million in public funds amounted to defrauding the Filipino people. Kapunan made the remarks after defense counsel Michael Poa moved to strike from the record her use of the word during the day's proceedings. She also said the prosecution was not focused on the aliases that appeared in documents linked to the confidential funds but on whether there was evidence showing how the money had been spent. Asked whether there was any legal basis for using aliases in confidential and intelligence fund transactions, Kapunan said there was neither a legal basis requiring nor prohibiting their use.

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Transcript
00:00When you do your father,
00:02you are asking what you have to buy,
00:03and you will not use your own book for your own book.
00:07If you do what you use,
00:08you will buy your own makeup or a date.
00:10You are talking about this,
00:11you will be scammed your son.
00:13When you do it, it will be like a three thousand books.
00:17But when you don't use it,
00:19the other thing that you will use,
00:23you will just scammed your son.
00:25But nowadays,
00:27you will be scammed your son.
00:28not nine, not nine.
00:30We are not a scam.
00:32We are a tax.
00:34We are worth a scam
00:35is $612,000.
00:39We are not a scam.
00:41I would like to say
00:44that,
00:44for us to understand.
00:48If you are a scam,
00:50you are a scam.
00:51You are a scam.
00:52We are a scam.
00:56There are a lot of names.
00:58Piatos.
00:59Mary Grace Piatos.
01:01Ang Dilim.
01:02Pikit.
01:04Other names.
01:09Third part is the confidentiality
01:11of the people
01:12who are reward or
01:14biniyari ng information?
01:15We do not emphasize
01:17the names.
01:20The amount
01:23and the amount
01:25you are a scam.
01:25It is not a receipt.
01:26You can also have a name.
01:29Are all of the government agencies
01:31that have confidential funds
01:33are on their receipt?
01:35No, we do not know
01:36because the work is the confidential funds
01:39of the vice president.
01:41Is there a legal basis
01:43for the use of aliases
01:44in Confidential Funds and Intelligence Funds?
01:47There is no basis to use it and no basis not to use it.
01:53Dapat, ang emphasis dito ay hindi yung pangalan.
01:58Pinakita ng witness natin ngayon eh,
02:01hindi naman ginamit, binigay yan, medicines.
02:04Sa kapisibo ng medicines?
02:06Diba?
02:06At sinisiki kaninong pangalan yan?
02:08Saan ginamit?
02:09Ano ang ebidensya na ginamit sa medicines?
02:14Ano ang ebidensya na ginamit sa supplies?
02:16Ano ang ebidensya na ginamit sa safe house?
02:20Regardless of kung ano yung pangalan.
02:22Sini-single out lang daw po si BP when it comes to CF.
02:26Eh marami rin naman po ang agencies ang merong Confidential Funds.
02:29Especially ang Office of the President na napaklaki po, billions.
02:33I-file lang yun ng kaso.
02:35Ang kaso ngayon ay tungkol sa Vice President at sa DepEd Secretary
02:41at tungkol sa Confidential Funds.
02:44At sinabi naman ang witness,
02:45sino ang Vice President kung may Confidential Funds?
02:48Siya lang.
02:49Sino ang Secretary ng DepEd kung may Confidential Funds?
02:54Siya lang.
02:54Diba?
02:55So, kung meron man kayong gustong public official
02:58na investigate ang Confidential Funds,
03:02Pailan nyo ng kaso.
03:03Kahit lang.
03:04Thank you po.
03:05Thank you po.
03:34I should make sure what you come with us.
03:38Thank you, everyone.
03:38Why do you think you can get an street answer?
03:38that is a kind of market.
03:38You
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