00:00The regime change has never been the goal, though.
00:03As you say, it has been denuclearization.
00:05Can you have one without the other, though?
00:07I think what does, the regime has to change.
00:10You may not have a regime change, but the regime has to change.
00:12The Iranian regime traditionally has been expeditionary.
00:16In essence, their view is they don't want to just govern Iran.
00:19They want to govern the region.
00:21They view them, they want to export their revolution.
00:23That does have to change.
00:24And the only way you're going to change that is if you make the price of it too high for
00:28them to be able to pay.
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