00:00Bob, tell me what the difference in between what he did and what Rose did, and I know Rose was
00:05in a place of a figurehead of being the manager of the Reds, but how do you know Otani decided
00:10not to pitch one day or decided not to hit that particular day or what have you?
00:16I mean, there's so many things because of all the players in Major League Baseball that could actually throw a
00:21game, here's a guy that's in control of the mound and also at the dish. He's one of the very
00:27unique guys that could be in that position to do things that could be, again, questioned. I'm not saying, and
00:33I'm not throwing anything out like that, but when you lose that kind of money, Bob, that's not just losing
00:3917 cents.
00:40I mean, that's $17 million of so-called illegal gambling. I mean, kind of fishy, no?
00:47Well, yeah, I don't think he had any idea he was losing that kind of money. Like I said, I
00:52mean, he makes about, I don't know, $120 million off the field, so money's going to factor to Otani. People
01:00give him everything.
01:01So the difference, of course, is Rose bet on baseball. And the nights he wasn't betting, all the bookies said,
01:07okay, means he thinks his team's going to lose.
01:09So, yeah, that's a big difference. If you bet on the sport, you're gone. Even if you have a, you
01:16know, the umpire, Pat Holberg, had his buddies were betting on baseball, and there was phone calls between him and
01:22that.
01:23But, you know, Holberg didn't throw any games or do anything with pitches, but just the fact that it's information
01:29that was passing along, you know, he's been banned for life.
01:33So, yeah, that's the big difference.
01:35You know, if I'm not mistaken, Bob, correct me. In 2027, I believe was the first time that Rose's face
01:42can be on that or name can be on that ballot for you guys to induct potentially in 2028.
01:49Do you think he gets into the Baseball Hall of Fame? Do you think he's going to have enough sentiment
01:53in how baseball has treated it?
01:56Because you were at the Hall of Fame last week. I was just curious what you guys would be thinking
02:01as his name comes up on the ballot.
02:03Do you think he's got a decent shot at getting in finally to Baseball's Hall of Fame?
02:09I used to. I don't think he gets in. I don't think he'll ever get in.
02:12I just think that was a cardinal sin, you know, betting on baseball.
02:15And I think they'll stack those contemporary. Remember, there's only 16 people in those contemporary era ballots or voters.
02:22And I think they'll stack the ballot to make sure that he doesn't get in.
02:26So, you know, you're not going to put in the PD, guys.
02:28Are you going to bet, you know, there was never signs in the clubhouse, don't use PDs.
02:32But there were signs everywhere, don't gamble on baseball.
02:36So I don't think he gets in. I really don't.
02:39How do you and what would you do when A-Rod's name becomes available for induction into the Hall of
02:46Fame?
02:46How will you handle him, Bob?
02:48You think he gets in the Baseball's Hall of Fame?
02:52I don't. I mean, he's still on the writer's ballot.
02:54I don't vote for him.
02:55I vote for Bonds and Clemens every year and Sammy Sosa.
02:59But there was no rule back then.
03:00There was no drug testing.
03:02In A-Rod's case, you know, he got the biggest drug suspension in baseball history.
03:08He violated that thing, just like Manny Ramirez violated it.
03:11So I think it's apples and oranges.
03:15That's my distinction.
03:16So I think Bonds and Clemens should be in, but not A-Rod.
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