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Ahead of the upcoming monsoon session of Parliament, the ruling government is preparing to reintroduce the Delimitation Bill and the Women's Reservation Bill.
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00:00Good evening, you're watching NewsTrack with me, Maria Shaquille.
00:03The monsoon session of Parliament is set to begin on July 20th, that is, coming Monday.
00:08Both the government and the opposition are forming up their strategy for this 19-day session.
00:13The agenda of the session is expected to be discussed at the all-party meeting, which is scheduled for July
00:1819.
00:19But one issue is already at the centre of the political debate, which is delimitation.
00:24The delimitation bill, which was earlier defeated in the Lok Sabha during the special session,
00:31which was called, is expected to be brought back during the monsoon session.
00:35The opposition says it is ready for another showdown over this issue.
00:39The BJP, meanwhile, has intensified what party leaders call its Mission 360
00:45as the Narendra Modi government prepares to divide the Constitution Amendment Bill,
00:50linking women's reservation with the delimitation of the Lok Sabha constituencies.
00:55The big political question now is, can the BJP secure the numbers
00:59to push its agenda through the parliament?
01:03First up the story, and then I bring in the guests.
01:09Now, don't be a part of the story.
01:27The scars of April are still fresh.
01:31For the first time in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's tenure,
01:35a constitutional amendment bill failed to pass in the Lok Sabha.
01:40The Women's Reservation Bill was blocked after the opposition linked it
01:44to the expansion of the Lok Sabha and fresh delimitation of constituencies.
02:10Now, the Modi government has pulled up its sleeves again.
02:13Ahead of the 19-day parliament session, it has convened an all-party meeting on July 19th.
02:20And sources say three politically significant bills are on the agenda.
02:26Delimitation Bill, Women's Reservation Bill and One Nation, One Election Bill.
02:33And that's where the numbers game begins.
02:35Back in April, one of the biggest political flashpoints was delimitation.
02:41The opposition alleged that southern states would lose representation.
02:46The government rejected those claims.
02:48Home Minister Amit Shah had then said that a major narrative is being built
02:53and a misconception is being spread.
02:56He asserted that representation of southern states will not go down.
03:01The united states will not go down.
03:07The opposition to the government is being spread.
03:15The country is being spread.
03:17The country will not be spread.
03:19The people will not be spread.
03:19And if we areled to the government,
03:25we are attending.
03:26In these different countries,
03:27then there are 11 in the EU and the people who are triggered.
03:28The waters will be spread,
03:30and the 26 in the EU will open.
03:43The Congress, leading the opposition alliance, asserts that it will defeat the government once again.
04:00The Congress, leading the opposition alliance, asserts that they will have to fight for a long time and long time.
04:21But is the opposition as united today as it was in April?
04:26Mamata Banerjee's TMC is fractured. 20 MPs have already broken away.
04:32Uddhav Thakre's party has seen a split. Six MPs have left his side and have joined Shinde Shif Sena.
04:38In Tamil Nadu, the DMK is angered by perceived betrayal, does not even want to sit with the Congress.
04:46Sharit Bawa's party appears to have softened its stance compared to before.
04:51Supriya Soleil has stated that the party will clarify its position once the bill is introduced.
04:58We will consider, provided, consider, Ingraji, I repeat, consider supporting if the 50% cap is to be discussed.
05:13And the bill, how will it be implemented is still a question.
05:18Sharit Bawa's party stance is being interpreted by some as supportive of the BJP government, while the Congress views it
05:25as opposition.
05:26Ultimately, the battle will be decided by numbers.
05:30There are currently 540 members in the Lok Sabha.
05:34A constitutional amendment needs 360 votes.
05:37The NDA has 293 MPs.
05:39With the support of 20 MPs who broke away from the DMC and 6 MPs from the Shinde camp, the
05:45government's effective strength rises to 319.
05:48Modi government's next target is support from outside the NDA.
05:54If the government secures the backing of 22 DMC MPs, 4 YSR CP MPs, 8 MPs from the Sharit Bawa
06:01faction, its tally will rise to 353.
06:05However, it would still need about 7 more votes.
06:08The expectation is that the additional support could also come from the JMM, VCK, MDMK, RLP and independents.
06:18If this happens, the government will comfortably go past the two-third mark required for a constitutional amendment.
06:25April delivered a rare defeat.
06:27This time, the government returns determined to change the outcome.
06:31Whether the BJP can accomplish Mission 360, only time will tell.
06:37With Piyush Mishra, Bureau Report, India Today.
06:50Ahead of the Parliament session, key NDA meeting is scheduled for tomorrow.
06:54The meeting will happen at the residence of Defence Minister Raidnaad Singh.
06:58Raidnaad Singh will be chairing this meeting, which will be attended by Home Minister Amit Shah, Parliamentary Affairs Minister Kiran
07:03Rajuju, among others.
07:06In fact, the alliance partners of the NDA, the larger NDA, will also be attending this meeting, which includes Leland
07:14Singh of the JDU, and also Ram Mohan Naidu, the Civil Aviation Minister of the TDP.
07:22The ministers are expected to discuss the strategy and also coordination for the upcoming Parliament session.
07:28Piyush is joining me.
07:29So, Piyush, we do know that various ministers are in touch with various political parties.
07:35Today, the DMK, which held its meeting, has decided to postpone its decision.
07:43Are you of the opinion that the government will be bringing the delimitation bill only and only if it is
07:49confident of the numbers,
07:51because they certainly do not want a repeat of April when certain political parties promised them support, but then they
07:58backed out on the floor of the House?
08:00Well, absolutely, Maria.
08:02So, they have confirmed to us that the government will bring delimitation and government's reservation bill.
08:07Both are tied together.
08:08They will bring this bill only and only when government is very much sure of the two-third majority.
08:14But looking at the numbers, which so far, India has been able to gather, it has now crossed the mark
08:19of 3.45.
08:22If you talk about the current strength, you know, 20 from NCPI, 22 from DMK, 4 by CRCP, 1 independent,
08:30and, you know, apart from that, 6 UBT.
08:33And if we add all these numbers, it reaches the mark of 3.46.
08:37And if Sharad Pawar's party supports this, then this will cross the mark of 3.50, and it will reach
08:43the mark of 3.54.
08:44That's what the number game is.
08:47But tomorrow is the day, Maria, when the meeting is going to take place at the office of Defence Minister
08:55Rajna Singh.
08:56And in this meeting, we will see top ministers from Modi government and also the NDA leaders.
09:02And this is basically, you know, a group of ministers meeting of NDA who are going to brainstorm over the
09:08upcoming session.
09:10What you are told is that a few bills, those were sent to JPC, including Education Bill, they have already
09:15got the nod from JPC.
09:17And the report has been adopted.
09:19This bill will be tabled in Parliament.
09:21Apart from that, there are a few more deliberations, which the government is going to do tomorrow.
09:26After that, there will be an all-party meeting on 19th of July.
09:30Then we will have a NDA parliamentary meet on 21st of July in Parliament.
09:37So, a series of meetings are lined up for you.
09:39We'll have to wait and watch what is going to happen tomorrow, because tomorrow is the day when the Aja
09:43Singh is going to share a meeting in which top ministers of Modi government, along with them, will be NDA
09:48leaders, NDA ministers, who are part of this.
09:50Okay, so that will be essentially a coordination meeting to ensure that they can speak to various political parties.
09:56So, the TDP will be given responsibility to speaking to other parties.
10:01So, this is how the entire floor strategy will be decided by the government in that crucial meeting tomorrow.
10:07I appreciate your time.
10:08Thank you for joining us.
10:09Joining me on the show tonight, Sanju Varma, National Spokesperson of the BJP.
10:12Professor Jyotsna is the National Spokesperson of the TDP.
10:16Mohan Kumar Mangalam is National Spokesperson of the Congress.
10:20And Anish is the Spokesperson of the NCP-SP.
10:24I'm going to begin with you, Ms. Varma.
10:26What has changed from April to now that the government is confident of bringing the delimitation bill again?
10:33You know, Maria, your introduction was so comprehensive.
10:36I think that leaves nothing to anyone's imagination.
10:39Last time in the parliament, the BJP failed to pass the delimitation bill by a whisker.
10:48Don't forget that we got 298 votes in favor of the proposal vis-a-vis 230 against.
10:56And the number that we needed, vis-a-vis 298, that we secured was 352.
11:01Now, the current strength of the Lok Sabha is not 543, it's 541.
11:05And the crucial number that we need to breach is 360.
11:11And the math is simply this.
11:13On its own, along with its alliance partners, BJP, plus alliance partners, 293,
11:20you add to that the erstwhile TMC MPs, you add 6 MPs from the UBT group, and the total comes
11:30to 319.
11:31Then you add 34 MPs from the Sharath Pabar NCP faction, you add 22 from the DMK,
11:39and you add another 4 from the YSRCP.
11:43So with this 34, you come at the number of 353.
11:46Now, if I have to get very, very optimistic, 353 is conservative.
11:51Now, if I have to get optimistic, you add members from JMN, you add members from MDMK,
11:58you add members from VCK, and don't forget, Mariya,
12:01while the BJP has 0 MPs in the Lok Sabha, it has 9 MPs in the Rajya Sabha.
12:06And we need strength in the Rajya Sabha as well,
12:09because finally, it's two-third members present and voting as a block.
12:14So add BJP to it as well.
12:17So you have done a full calculation here, Sanju Varma,
12:19and I can see Anish smile as well,
12:22because Ms. Varma there added the NCP's Sharath Pabar numbers to the big picture.
12:28But what has changed, you know, for Supriya Sule to say
12:32that if the government promises and then they will consider,
12:37it's a clear indication,
12:38and that was said by the Home Minister on the floor of the House,
12:41that there will be a proportional increase,
12:44and they are going to increase 50% seats across the country.
12:49That's the way it will be.
12:50So it is not really a conditional support.
12:53It's almost a support which the government wanted,
12:56and they are extending it.
12:58So, Mariya, to begin off,
13:00I'd like to say I'm not as good with my arithmetic
13:03as Sanju is on the show today,
13:06but I'd like to believe that we still have some agency
13:09in deciding how we're going to vote
13:10before the parliament session begins.
13:12And I want to state very categorically
13:14that the NCPSP has not yet decided
13:17how we will vote on delimitation
13:20if it is introduced in the upcoming monsoon session of the parliament.
13:23In the order of business that has been sort of announced publicly so far,
13:27delimitation is not on the agenda.
13:29Until we see a copy of the bill,
13:31it's difficult to decide what side we'd fall on.
13:34Of course, if the government has conceded
13:36that this will be a proportionate 50% increase,
13:40then in our opinion, it's a victory for the opposition
13:42and a victory for democratic dialogue in the country.
13:45This is the way a democracy should function,
13:47where considerations and concerns of the opposition are listened to.
13:50But we must also remember that there are other concerns, right?
13:52Will the seats in the Rajya Sabha be increased?
13:55Will there be a sort of reservation for OBCs in the...
13:58Yes, all that is a subject of discussion.
14:00But Anish, look, what is evident here is
14:03that the government is going full force
14:07in ensuring that they get the numbers for the passage.
14:09And India bloc, which appeared united
14:12and wanted to send a message
14:13that the government can face its first legislative defeat,
14:16which they did in April,
14:18is appearing not so united.
14:21So let me bring in the Congress spokesperson now.
14:24Mohan Kumar Mangalam, isn't that a matter of concern
14:27that the Congress continues to say
14:29that they will defeat this bill?
14:30But where are the numbers?
14:33Your own alliance partners have moved away,
14:36including NCP Sharad Pawar,
14:37who is seen as the biggest glue of this entire India bloc.
14:41And the DMK has decided to postpone its decision.
14:46So I think, before we get into the numbers,
14:49I think a bigger matter of concern is
14:50when the forefathers of our constitution
14:52talked about a two-thirds majority,
14:54they were talking about building consensus,
14:56not an invitation for conquest,
14:58which is what the Home Minister seems to have taken it as.
15:01Now, as far as the DMK is concerned,
15:03I don't know what makes you think
15:05the DMK would not go along with the India Alliance,
15:07given that the most recent action
15:09the India Alliance took...
15:11No, they have an issue not with the India bloc,
15:13they have an issue with the Congress party.
15:15Yes, sure.
15:16And the DMK has even given a letter
15:19to the Lok Sabha speaker
15:21that they do not want to be seated
15:24in the parliament along with India bloc.
15:28So they have reservations with the manner
15:30in which the Congress has conducted itself
15:32after the loss in Tamil Nadu.
15:37Absolutely, Maria.
15:38That's my home state.
15:39I'm from Tamil Nadu.
15:40Absolutely.
15:40So I can tell you that
15:41within the state of Tamil Nadu,
15:44we do have differences.
15:46Clearly, we have differences.
15:47But at the same time,
15:48the application, by the way,
15:50that was forwarded by Kani Molliji
15:52to the speaker
15:53happened right after the results
15:55of the state election.
15:56And much after that,
15:57they joined us in writing
15:59to the Chief Justice
16:00about Arkansas
16:02concerns with the SIR process.
16:04So if the DMK has such a big problem
16:07with the Congress,
16:08why would it support
16:09and sign on a letter
16:10that was actually the entire move
16:12was orchestrated by the Congress?
16:14Second, I saw Anish shaking his head.
16:16I don't want to speak for him.
16:17But clearly, he's not on the same page with you
16:19when you say that the NCP SP
16:22has moved away from the India bloc.
16:24I think you're coming too much at that point.
16:29As far as the numbers are concerned,
16:33the belief that someone like
16:34a Thirma Wallo and a BCK
16:37would actually come on board
16:38or a DMK would come on board
16:40or even an NCPSP would come on board
16:42and support this
16:42So you'll manage 230?
16:43It's laughable, frankly.
16:44230?
16:46That's not the case right now.
16:48Ma'am, I'm coming to you.
16:49One moment.
16:49Let me finish this point.
16:50The BJP, I really think
16:52what the BJP is hoping for
16:53and I'm not sure
16:55what kind of arm thing
16:56they're going to engage in
16:58and they hope that it will yield results
17:00is for both these parties to abstain.
17:02In which case,
17:03if they get YSRCP
17:04and they get the independents,
17:06they'll still fall short of two, I think.
17:08They definitely will not get DMK
17:10and NCPSP to support this.
17:11Having said that,
17:13my last point,
17:14my last point,
17:14let us see the draft of the bill.
17:17I'm on the same page
17:18with Anish on this.
17:19Let me just give a point
17:22what was said by
17:23what was said by the Home Minister
17:25on the floor of the House
17:26and then Sanju Verma can come in
17:28and we have Professor Jyotsna
17:30who's been extremely patient as well.
17:32What Home Minister said
17:33on the floor of the House
17:34in the month of April
17:35during the special session,
17:38give me an hour
17:39and all the concerns
17:41will be addressed
17:43and that 50% would be
17:45proportional increase
17:46will be added
17:48and then,
17:50you know,
17:50I'll bring the bill back.
17:51But of course,
17:52that was not to be.
17:53We saw what happened
17:54and the bill was defeated.
17:56If that happens,
17:57will the Congress come on board?
18:00Mohan Kumar Mangalam.
18:03Maria, let's see the draft of the bill.
18:05I think there's so many more issues
18:07beyond the 50% as well
18:08that Anish attuned to some of them
18:09when he talked about it.
18:10Let's see the bill.
18:12Let's have a discussion about it.
18:13Let's not introduce it
18:14and vote on it the next day.
18:16Okay, okay.
18:16Sanju Verma,
18:17the point has been made here is
18:19that there was almost like
18:21an impatient hurry
18:23with which the BJP has functioned
18:26in the last couple of weeks
18:28or should I say a month.
18:30You were really going full throttle
18:32in trying to cobble up numbers.
18:35TMC breaking.
18:35I'm not going to say
18:37that you're responsible for it.
18:38Neither am I saying
18:39that, you know,
18:41but what happened
18:42in the Shinde Sena,
18:43then, you know,
18:44Raghav Chadda
18:45and the entire
18:46Aam Admi Party numbers.
18:47You were making all effort.
18:50So,
18:50is this really a conquest here?
18:53The point that has been made
18:54by Mohan Kumar Mangalam.
18:55Why not build consensus?
18:57Why can't we see that
18:59the manner in which
19:00the Parliament has functioned
19:01in the past,
19:02that the Treasury benches
19:04make an effort
19:04to get the opposition
19:05come on board
19:06on crucial legislations?
19:09You know,
19:09Mariya,
19:10I did not want to engage
19:11in whataboutry,
19:12but I think it's time
19:13to do that.
19:14And let me be very upfront.
19:16You know,
19:16Congress,
19:17which passed
19:20107 amendments
19:21without so much
19:23as even taking anyone
19:24into consideration
19:25when it was in power
19:26for 54 long years,
19:28dismissed
19:2978 duly elected governments
19:31with Indira Gandhi alone,
19:32dismissing 50
19:33the duly elected governments.
19:35I mean,
19:35this is the party
19:36which has the gall
19:37and the audacity
19:38and temerity
19:39to lecture the BJP.
19:40That's a bit too rich.
19:41But let me come straight
19:42to the point.
19:43Assuming that,
19:44you know,
19:45the NCP Sharad Pawar faction
19:46does not
19:48come along
19:49with the NDA
19:50on the delimitation.
19:51Let me now not be optimistic,
19:52let me be conservative.
19:54What do we have?
19:55293
19:56plus we have,
19:57you know,
19:59members from the
20:00UPT,
20:01we have DMC,
20:02we get to 319.
20:03Now add to that
20:04DMK is 22,
20:06add to that
20:064 of YSRCP,
20:08but don't add
20:09the 8 of NCP.
20:10You still get
20:11a total of 345.
20:13Now add to that
20:149 of BJD.
20:16You get a total
20:16of 354.
20:18Now don't add
20:19MD,
20:19DMK,
20:20don't add
20:20VCK,
20:21don't add
20:21BJD is in the
20:22Rajya Sabha,
20:23ma'am.
20:24BJD is in the
20:25Rajya Sabha.
20:26No,
20:27that's what I said.
20:28BJP is in the
20:28Rajya Sabha,
20:29but when the
20:30voting will happen
20:31finally,
20:32for it to become
20:33an act from a bill,
20:34it will be
20:35two-thirds of the
20:36total members
20:37present in voting.
20:38in the Nuk Sabha.
20:39What has changed
20:39now is BJP
20:41is a whisker
20:43away from an
20:43absolute majority
20:45in Rajya Sabha.
20:45Okay,
20:45so let me,
20:46okay,
20:46so yes,
20:47you are whiskered
20:48away in the
20:50parliament.
20:51Overall,
20:52overall,
20:53not just in one
20:54house,
20:54but overall.
20:55Yes,
20:56ma'am,
20:56I'm coming to you.
20:57Professor Jyotsna
20:58hasn't said a word,
20:59ma'am.
20:59Please,
21:00a fellow woman,
21:00let's bring her in
21:01as well.
21:02Professor Jyotsna,
21:03you know,
21:04we have seen
21:05Chandrapa Bunaidu
21:06make a very,
21:07very passionate claim
21:10plea,
21:10I would say,
21:12appeal
21:13as to why
21:13southern states
21:14must come on board,
21:15the parties in
21:17southern India
21:17must come on board,
21:18because it is
21:19in the larger interest
21:20of these parties as well.
21:22So,
21:22is there a sense
21:23that the DMK
21:24can do a rethink?
21:26Maria,
21:28first of all,
21:29definitely a good evening
21:29to one and all,
21:30and Sanju is there,
21:32Sanju has given the numbers,
21:33so I'll not,
21:34you know,
21:35we are an alliance,
21:37we complement
21:38each other,
21:38so definitely
21:39she has given the numbers,
21:40so I don't have to give
21:41the numbers now.
21:42The only thing,
21:43as you rightly said,
21:44the thought process.
21:46Yes,
21:46Maria,
21:47today,
21:47I think
21:49NDA stands united,
21:51and we give
21:52priority
21:53to national interest.
21:55And that's the reason,
21:56Nairuji
21:57very categorically
21:58said,
21:58all the parties
22:00have to rethink
22:01and come on board.
22:02There is a reason
22:03behind it.
22:03See,
22:06when it was
22:07either the work bill
22:09or any other thing,
22:10we went ahead
22:11and we asked
22:12for JPC,
22:13we could give
22:14our dialogue there,
22:15we could talk there,
22:16there were some
22:17consultations,
22:18there were some
22:18negotiations
22:19that have happened,
22:20unlike
22:21the other
22:23team,
22:24I don't know
22:25if I can call it
22:25a team,
22:26but unlike
22:27the other team
22:27which
22:28one day
22:28we live
22:29and we go
22:30to one day
22:30so I don't know
22:31who is with them
22:33or who is with them.
22:34But NDA is united
22:36and we also
22:37believe that
22:38this is the time
22:40keeping apart
22:42all the
22:42political
22:43I think
22:46advantages,
22:46disadvantages,
22:47we have to think
22:48of the country,
22:49we have to think
22:50about the fair
22:51representation
22:52of all the states
22:53and the federal
22:54thought process.
22:56That is what
22:57is Nairuji's
22:59I think
23:00ultimate goal.
23:03We
23:03time and again
23:04keep saying
23:05that in NDA
23:06all the stakeholders
23:07are consulted,
23:08negotiations happen.
23:09So that has to be
23:10the case
23:11amongst all the
23:12other parties also.
23:13I believe that.
23:14Okay, okay.
23:15So let's start
23:16wrapping it up
23:16and I'm going to
23:17begin with you
23:18Mr. Kumar Mangalam.
23:20Your thoughts,
23:21you know,
23:21will there be
23:23efforts
23:23to ensure
23:24that you
23:25are united,
23:26that the
23:26India bloc
23:27stays united.
23:29Of course,
23:30you know,
23:30the TMC numbers
23:31have shrunk
23:33considerably
23:34and so
23:35are the numbers
23:36of
23:36Udhav Sena.
23:39So isn't
23:40that a concern
23:41that the number
23:42that you had
23:42last time around,
23:44which I remember
23:45clearly,
23:45it was 230
23:46which voted
23:47against.
23:47That's not
23:48the real picture
23:49right now.
23:52I'd say that
23:53the belief
23:55that the
23:55DMK,
23:56which is the
23:56largest bloc
23:57that they're
23:57seeking to
23:58break away
23:58from the
23:59India alliance,
24:01would actually
24:02vote in favor
24:02of this,
24:03is only based
24:05out of
24:05someone who has
24:06absolutely no
24:07knowledge of
24:07politics in
24:08Tamil Nadu.
24:09If there's one
24:10thing the DMK
24:11has been for
24:12the last 15
24:13years,
24:14it has
24:14been a
24:15complete,
24:16it has
24:16opposed
24:16almost every
24:17single move
24:18which reduces
24:20federalism in
24:21our country,
24:21which is a
24:22threat to
24:22federalism.
24:23It has
24:23opposed almost
24:24every single
24:25policy like
24:26the new
24:27education policy
24:28that's been
24:28implemented in
24:29many states,
24:30but in
24:30Tamil Nadu.
24:31Their entire
24:33politics has
24:34been in
24:34opposition to
24:35BJP.
24:36For them to
24:36walk out of
24:37the India
24:37alliance at
24:38this point
24:38and support
24:39a bill which
24:41they were
24:41leading,
24:43at the
24:43forefront of
24:44opposing,
24:45that's a
24:45pretty big
24:46leap of
24:46faith for
24:47the BJP
24:47to make.
24:48I really
24:49don't see
24:49that happening
24:50at all.
24:51Of course,
24:51even the
24:51independents I
24:52don't see
24:52coming on
24:53board that
24:53they're talking
24:54about,
24:54but let's
24:55just stick
24:55with the
24:55largest
24:55number.
24:57Okay,
24:58so you're
24:58hoping that,
24:59let's see
24:59whether it
25:00happens or
25:00not.
25:01Anish,
25:0130 seconds
25:02and then I'll
25:02give the
25:02last word to
25:03Ms. Verma,
25:04please go ahead.
25:04That might lead
25:05to abstaining.
25:07Okay,
25:07so you are
25:08thinking that
25:09DMK might
25:09abstain?
25:15Mohan?
25:15I'm saying
25:15if they do
25:16abstain and
25:16that's probably
25:17the best case
25:17scenario for
25:18the BJP,
25:18they still
25:19will not have
25:20the numbers.
25:20even that
25:21will be big
25:22for an India
25:23bloc party
25:24as you said
25:24which is in
25:25the forefront
25:26of the
25:26opposition.
25:27with you.
25:28If they do,
25:29it will be seen
25:29as a big victory
25:30for the BJP.
25:32I am giving
25:33in to Sanju's
25:34flights of
25:34fantasy for a
25:35minute.
25:36I'm entertaining
25:36her notions.
25:37Okay,
25:37Sanju
25:38Verma,
25:38you are being
25:38entertained by
25:39the Congress
25:39party.
25:40I mean,
25:41we have
25:41strange things
25:42happening here.
25:44You know,
25:45I thought
25:46I was the
25:46optimist.
25:47I thought
25:48I was the
25:48optimist,
25:49but listening
25:49to Mohan
25:50Kumar Mangalam,
25:51I think
25:51that he is
25:52the one
25:53who is
25:53super optimist
25:54thinking that
25:55the DMK
25:55is not
25:56going to
25:56support the
25:56BJP.
25:57Be that as
25:57it may,
25:58I don't want
25:58to dwell
25:59into the
25:59realm of
26:00speculation.
26:07My limited
26:08point is this
26:09Mariya,
26:10very quickly
26:10your audience
26:11needs to listen
26:12to this
26:12because this
26:13is where
26:13the BJP
26:15last time
26:15could not
26:16do the needful.
26:17Amit Shah
26:18has said it
26:18on the floor
26:19of the parliament
26:19and I will
26:20take 10 seconds
26:20to say it.
26:22If the
26:22delimitation
26:23bill goes
26:24through,
26:24the number
26:25of seats
26:25of Karnataka
26:26increased
26:26from 28
26:27to 42,
26:28that of
26:29Andhra Pradesh
26:29from 25
26:30to 38,
26:31that of
26:31Telangana
26:32from 1770
26:33to 26,
26:34that of
26:35Tamil Nadu
26:35from 39
26:36to 59,
26:37that of
26:38Kerala
26:38from 20
26:39to 30
26:39and the
26:40overall
26:40percentage
26:41of southern
26:42states
26:42goes up
26:43from 23.76
26:45to 23.9.
26:47So anybody
26:48out there
26:49who is
26:49living in
26:50Lala land
26:50hallucinating
26:51that the
26:52southern states
26:53will get
26:53a raw deal
26:54and this
26:54bar
26:54will be
26:55the worst
26:55deal.
26:57You are
26:58underestimating
26:59Narendra
27:00Modi and
27:00Amit Shah.
27:01Don't
27:01ever do
27:02that.
27:02Okay,
27:03Sanju
27:03Verma,
27:03I think
27:03that's
27:03the right
27:04note to
27:04end this
27:04show.
27:05You know,
27:05because the
27:06government
27:06will be
27:07bringing the
27:08delimitation
27:08bill only
27:09and only
27:10they are
27:10confident
27:10that they
27:11have the
27:11numbers.
27:12That's the
27:12clear picture
27:13right now.
27:14Sanju
27:14Verma,
27:14Professor
27:15Jyotsna,
27:15Mohan Kumar
27:16Mangalam and
27:16Anish,
27:16really appreciate
27:17your time.
27:17Of course,
27:18we'll continue
27:18to have much
27:20more of this
27:20discussion through
27:21the 19
27:22days monsoon
27:23session that
27:24begins on
27:25Monday.
27:25That's all
27:25from me.
27:26Thanks so
27:26much for
27:26watching.
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