Ram Mandir donation theft case: Where does the buck stop? Experts weigh in

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This edition of News Today covers the escalating Ram Mandir donation theft controversy in Ayodhya following the resignation of temple trust General Secretary Champat Rai.

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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome. You're with the news today, your prime time destination news,

00:05newsmakers, talking points, our big talking point tonight, our continuing focus on the Ram Mandir theft.

00:11The big question, resignations may have been taken of officials, but where does the buck really stop?

00:18Should Ayodhya Trust now be disbanded? We'll ask all the big questions tonight.

00:23Also, are we heading into a climate emergency as the rains continue in extreme patterns in parts of the country?

00:33And that big global controversy, Trump card versus red card, as the U.S. president put a blot on the

00:41beautiful game with his interventions.

00:44All the big stories and controversies, but first, as always, it's time for the Nine Headlines at Nine.

00:51A day after his resignation is accepted, the VHP leader and Ram Mandir Trust General Secretary Champat Rai breaks silence,

01:03puts the blame on fellow ousted trustee Anil Mishra, vows to give up point-by-point rebuttal after the final

01:10SIT report is out.

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01:22Kerala Chief Minister VD Satishan takes stock of the situation. Minister Siddiqui calls it a man-made tragedy.

01:31Heavy rain exposes crumbling infrastructure in the NCR region. Road caves in on the Gurugram Highway,

01:38triggering widespread traffic disruption, leaving commuters stranded for hours.

01:46Another dowry shocker from the capital, 28-year-old Akriti found dead in Delhi.

01:51Family accuses in-laws of murder. Says she was taunted for no dowry.

01:55Accused husband arrested by the police.

02:00In a blow to the DMK, the Supreme Court refuses to entertain a plea seeking to restrain Tamil Nadu Chief

02:06Minister Vijay from visiting Karoor

02:08and meeting stampede-affected families. Top court says don't make the court a political forum.

02:16Major controversy erupts after a Shiv Sena corporator is caught on camera assaulting doctors and nurses in Thane's Dombivli.

02:25Entire medical staff in government hospitals across Kalyan and Dombivli go on strike.

02:33Politics continues over the removal of Diljeet Dosanj's film Satlic from OTT.

02:38AAP says film exposed wrongdoings by the Congress.

02:42When they were in power, government sources claim the film could have been used to revive pro-Khalistani movement, hence

02:49was banned.

02:52And India and Indonesia signed key defence deals amidst Prime Minister Modi's visits.

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03:07The World Cup run ends for hosts, United States and Portugal.

03:12Ronaldo's dream for a prestigious trophy ends in tears after Spain knocks Portugal out.

03:30The story that's been breaking is again around the Ram Mandir dress where amidst the growing uproar over the manner

03:37in which donations,

03:38thefts took place at the Shri Ram Mandir in Ayodhya,

03:42the blame game carries on because now Champat Rai, the General Secretary of the Trust who only resigned,

03:50whose resignation was accepted yesterday, has made a statement to the special investigation team that India Today has accessed.

03:58In that statement, Champat Rai has blamed his fellow trustee Anil Mishra over the lapses that took place,

04:05particularly when it came to bank records, Champat Rai has claimed he had no knowledge of any bank MOUs.

04:12Champat Rai claims allegations that he was involved in any way are baseless and he has vowed to remain silent

04:19till the final report.

04:21And then says he will give a point-by-point rebuttal.

04:24Remember, he is the man in the line of fire because people associated with him, including his driver,

04:30were seen to be involved in the misappropriation of funds at the Shri Ram Mandir at the moment.

04:36And that is really our top focus because what's happened as a result of this donation theft controversy

04:43is that while Champat Rai and others are claiming that the allegations are baseless,

04:50the special investigation team is expanding its probe and India Today has accessed the interim report of the SIT.

04:58And this report in my hand clearly shows that there has been widespread misappropriation.

05:04The report confirms theft, criminal misappropriation and criminal breach of trust

05:10that occurred during the donation process inside the counting room.

05:15So this report is virtually the interim report only confirms what has been suspected,

05:21widespread corruption in the Shri Ram Mandir Trust.

05:25Take a look at our top story.

05:33Champat Rai, who stepped down as a general secretary of the Shri Ram Jan Bhumidit Chetra Trust,

05:38issues his first statement since the Ram Mandir donation theft scandal broke out.

05:44In a handwritten note posted on X on Tuesday,

05:47Champat Rai called the charges against him baseless and added that he has chosen to remain silent.

05:53He claimed the classified SIT preliminary report was made public at the trust meeting on Monday.

06:00Rai said he will issue a point-by-point response once the final report of the SIT is released.

06:06There are signs of differences within the trust members.

06:22Until now, it appeared that only cash and ornaments donated by devotees

06:26had been siphoned off from the Shri Ram Mandir in Ayodhya.

06:29But as the investigation widens, the probe is now looking well beyond the alleged theft.

06:36The special investigation team is scrutinizing more than 124 crore rupees spent by the Temple Trust.

06:43That includes 113 crore rupees for the Pran Pratishtha ceremony of Ram Lalla on January 22, 2024.

06:52Over 10 crore rupees spent on the Ram Temple flag hosting ceremony.

06:56Nearly 83 lakh rupees incurred during the first Pratishtha Dwaadashi celebrations.

07:02And another 43 lakh rupees spent on arrangements for devotees during the Maha Cope.

07:09Sources say investigators are auditing the trust's financial records over the past two years

07:14to determine whether there were irregularities in the utilization of funds.

07:19The SIT is also examining donations made to Ram Lalla in the form of precious metals.

07:25Trust records show devotees donated 2.3 kilograms of gold and 83.3 kilograms of silver

07:32between November 2024 and February 2025.

07:36During the Maha Cumbha, another 1.5 kilograms of gold and 28 kilograms of silver were received.

07:43The SIT's preliminary findings point to serious institutional lapses and inadequate oversight.

07:49It says nearly 70 alleged theft incidents took place between April 27 and June 5 alone.

07:55The probe has also flagged alleged nepotism in appointments, claiming members of the cash-counting

08:01staff were recruited on the recommendations of trust officials rather than through an independent

08:06process.

08:08Meanwhile, the Shri Ram Janbhumitir Chetra has undergone a major shake-up.

08:13General Secretary Champath Rai, trustee Anil Mishra and special invitee Gopal Rao have been removed.

08:21Whistleblower Krishna Mohan has taken over as an interim general secretary, while the search

08:26for a new CEO is underway.

08:28Bureau Report, India Today.

08:33Let's raise some of the big questions tonight.

08:35Should the Ayodhya Trust be completely disbanded and a new one appointed?

08:40Are Mandir Trust members divided amongst themselves?

08:44Has there been a total supervisory failure in Ayodhya?

08:48And where does the buck stop?

08:51Joining me now, our special guest, Mahant Rajaram Chandra Acharya Sarpanch of the Shri Panj,

09:00Ramanandi Nirmohi Akhada, is joining me.

09:03So he comes from the Nirmohi Akhada and he is 102 years old.

09:07I want to tell you, he has fought the title case since 1949.

09:11Karthik Chopra Mukhtar and national spokesperson of the Nirmohi Akhada in Ayodhya is joining me.

09:19And I am also joined by Shri Raj Nair, BHP spokesperson.

09:24I appreciate all of you joining us here on the show.

09:27Before I want to come to my guest who is 102 years old.

09:35चंद्रा अचारे जी महंत राजाराम चंद्रा अचारे जी ये बताईए कि जिस तरह से SIT अपनी investigation कर रही है

09:46वो कह रही है कि हम बिलकुल किसी को बख्षेंगे नहीं

09:52कि येचपी भी कह रही है किसी को बख्षेंगे नहीं क्या आपको विश्वास है कि ये जो investigation हो रही

09:58है ये सही दिशा में जा रही है ये उपर ही उपर का जो मंदिर बनने के बाद में जो

10:07हुआ है कांड उसी का निरिक्षन कर रही है लेकिन ये तो

10:17मैं 16-82 को भी रामजन भूमी पे डखाईते हुई है उसकि मैं आपको वो दे रहा हूँ वहां तो

10:27उदर जाई नहीं रहे है तो आप कह रहे हैं कि आप कह रहे हैं ये पहली बार नहीं है

10:33क्योंकि नहीं एक मिनिट सर मुझे याद है कि निर्मोई अकाड़ा ने वी एच पी क

10:38को चौदा सो क्रोड का की धानली का मामले 2017 में उठाया था आपके और वी एच पी के बीच

10:46में बंती नहीं है क्या आप कह रहे हैं ये पहली बार ऐसा नहीं हुआ है हमार कि माने हम

10:54तो राम जन्म भूमी के मौलिक निर्मोई अखाड़ा तो 88-85 से वहां लड़ रहा है जी व

11:03एच पी और बीजेपी इंसकता जन्म तेरे कॉंग्रेस का भी जन्मनी हुआ था उसके पहले से निरूमे यह खाड़ा वहां

11:09लड़ता आ रहा है 1885-1886 जी तो हमारी उनके बनने का कोई प्रश नहीं है उन्हें अपना उल्लू सिधा

11:19करने के लिए राजनीत करने के लिए यह

11:21प्रशना गुसे हैं वो कि अधिया ड़काइटी डालेगा क्या कि इंद्वों के डाले डाली जाएगी यह 16-22 को अधिक

11:32है तो आप कह रहे हैं यह पहले पांट बजे शुरू होती है जी जी जी आपके रहे पहले में

11:41संजोता वारता होती है फिर उसके बाद में एक मिनिट स

11:50to the national spokesperson of the Nirmohi Akhada. Now, I'm hearing what the Acharya is saying but the truth of

11:57the matter is that there has been a long-running battle between the Nirmohi Akhada and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad

12:03over the Ram Mandir who should take credit now because of what has happened. VHP is saying you can't hold

12:08us responsible.

12:12No, no. I would like to just come in over here. This battle for Ram Janambhumi has been one of

12:19continuous possession change ever since 1528.

12:23In 1528, our mahanth, Shamanand ji, and there are 338, who are mahanth, who are going to defend the muslims.

12:31In English, please, sir.

12:34After that, regularly, the Nirmohi Akhada used to always take possession back and hold on to it.

12:40In 1858, after the First War of Independence, after Wajid Ali Shah is disposed and British shul comes in,

12:46the Britishers then put a brick wall inside the inner courtyard, separating the inner courtyard in two parts.

12:53Please understand, there is an inner courtyard and an outer courtyard.

12:57And inside the inner courtyard, there is the Ram Chabutra.

13:00The Nirmohi Akhada has always believed that the entire site is the birthplace of Bhagwan Shri Ram Lalla Virajman.

13:06During the High Court hearings, Justice Sudhir Agarwal asked our lawyer,

13:10Ranjit Dar Varma ji, Mr. Varma, please tell me the exact spot where Lord Ram was born.

13:15Mr. Varma said, Lord Ram was a Chakrivati Samrat. He was born in a palace.

13:19Therefore, the birthing chamber for us was this entire area.

13:22As far as we were concerned, we could put the idols anywhere in this birthing area.

13:24Sir, let's not go into the past. With new regard, let's talk about today.

13:28Let's not go into the past. I am talking about today.

13:32Today, when the VHP is saying that the government of the day is saying we are investigating these irregularities,

13:38why are you raising a red flag? Why don't you have faith in the SIT?

13:45We do not have faith in the SIT. We have asked for an immediate disbanding of this trust because all

13:51the trust properties and assets and funds,

13:54all are the property of Bhagwan Shri Ram Lalla Virajman and not our trust that was made and registered at

13:59an address in Greater Kailash 1, New Delhi.

14:01The address of Bhagwan Shri Ram Lalla Virajman is Ram Janambhumi. His office is at Ram Kacheri Mandir.

14:07So, this trust was made. If you look at the original trust deed, the stamp paper was bought by Khela

14:15Ram Murmu, Government of India.

14:17The Government of India was the settler of the trust.

14:19They created the trust and decided in the trust deed itself, it says, that out of all the different schemes

14:25which the Supreme Court has suggested,

14:26they find that instead of society or X, Y, Z, trust is the best solution. But that trust is registered

14:33in New Delhi.

14:34Two places are kept empty in that trust, which later are filled up with Mahan Nitya Gopal Das and Champat

14:40Raiji.

14:40This particular thing, trust…

14:43So, you are saying the VHP and Sang Paribar hijacked the entire trust or the entire movement. Is that your

14:52charge?

14:56Not the movement, the trust. Because the Nirmoyah Khada has been fighting all the way through.

15:01In 1959, Nirmoyah Khada as Shaibiyat, where title of the Lord is undisputed, challenges the 145 proceedings, which were wrongly

15:09instituted on 5-1-1950.

15:12These were put into appearance in 1953 for the simple reason that the city magistrate said there are two civil

15:18suits.

15:18So, when the civil suits abate, we'll hear the 145. Now, this 145 rightfully should have been heard after the

15:23judgment of the Supreme Court.

15:25Because the 145 proceedings were kept in abeyance. In that 145 proceeding, the land was taken from the sadhus of

15:31the Nirmoyah Khada.

15:32A list was given of all the items that were found over there, including the Moortis, the Shaligram Pathar, etc.,

15:38etc.

15:38Vidhi was given to them about how puja is to be done. And the condition of handing over charge, I

15:44repeat, charge, not ownership, to the receiver was that a pujari would be appointed.

15:49And that pujari system continued all the way through Mr. Lal Dasji, who was later murdered.

15:54And finally ends at Satyendra Dasji Maharaj, who was the last pujari as far as the receiver was concerned.

16:00In 1982, there is a dacoity on the site itself. But what was acquired in 1950 was only the inner

16:08courtyard.

16:09The outer courtyard, till 1982, till 17 February 1982, was in the possession and control of the Nirmoyah Khada.

16:17So, there was no question about the Nirmoyah Khada.

16:19Sir, let's not, again I repeat, let's not go into the past. I am asking you about today. You are

16:24going back into the past. I am asking you about today.

16:28Today, when there has been these serious charges of misappropriation of funds, where do you believe the buck stops?

16:39The buck stops with the central government, which was tasked by the Supreme Court to make a fair trust, to

16:46protect the properties of Bhagawan Sri Ram Lala Virajwan,

16:49to build his temple, to manage that temple, and ensure that everything is done in a free and transparent manner.

16:56The central government did everything. The central government in good faith created this trust.

17:01But the membership of this trust was manipulated by the VHP and people like Mr. Champatra and Nitya Gopal Das,

17:07who had no business, first of all, to be there, because the trust is based on the acquisition of certain

17:11areas, Act 1993,

17:13which ruled that no member of any trust or any trust prior to the date of 1st, 7th January 1993,

17:19could ever be handed over this property, which was acquired by the central government post the demolition on 6 December

17:251992.

17:27I take your point, I take your point, Mr. Chopra, Mr. Chopra, you know, you are making very serious,

17:37Sir, you are making very serious allegations. The Supreme Court in its judgment had called for the constitution of a

17:43trust.

17:44What you are saying is the manner in which the VHP, you claim, virtually took over the trust, the likes

17:49of Champatra is,

17:50where you have your objections. I want Sriraj Nayar to respond. He must have the right.

17:54If you give us two minutes.

17:56No, no, I must allow him to respond.

17:58Just give us one minute, Razeeb, I'll finish this off.

18:00Yeah, okay. Please finish. Please finish.

18:06Okay.

18:07Please finish.

18:07So, basically, the Supreme Court judgment in Para 804-805 say that, after having taken our Sheviath,

18:13they still say that we had, we always had a historical role and presence on the site,

18:19without stating what that role and presence was.

18:21And, therefore, they recommend to the central government that in any scheme of management that is made by the central

18:26government,

18:26Nirmoyi Akhada is to be given adequate role and representation.

18:30Nirmoyi Akhada is a panchayiti naa nyas.

18:32It has a board of governors.

18:34And, as far as we are concerned, when you say Nirmoyi Akhada, it means the entire board of 15 members.

18:40Obviously, we can't have 15 members in the trust.

18:42So, we would have been satisfied with three.

18:44But, we don't get three.

18:46One of our mahants, who is based in Ayodhya, is unilaterally taken into this trust by people who make this

18:52trust.

18:53Now, that is against our constitution.

18:55Can I now stop you, Karthik Ji?

18:57Karthik Ji, I've heard you now.

19:02I think it's only fair that I now allow Mr. Srirad Nair a chance to speak.

19:06Mr. Srirad Nair, you see, this entire issue seems to have split in a way.

19:12The Sadhu Sant Samaj, the Nirmoyi Akhada has run even in the past a campaign or questioned the VHP or

19:18the VHP's monopoly that it tried to establish over the Ram Mandir or the politicization of the entire movement.

19:25Now, all of this happens.

19:26Do you concede this has caused huge reputational damage?

19:29Is it enough for a Champat Rai to say, look, I am innocent.

19:33Others did this.

19:34It surely goes well beyond that.

19:36Because I am looking at the report again, the report is very, very detailed and suggests that there was a

19:41huge failure at different levels, particularly on supervision and institutionally.

19:52Well, Rajiv, we were very clear in the first week of July, when all these things came up, we were

19:59the first to say that we don't want to shield anybody, we don't want to protect anybody.

20:03The SIT was formed, eight people were arrested, two trustees, Champat Rai and Anil Mishra Rai resigned.

20:11And now the SIT has asked for some more time.

20:14Definitely it has hurt, in your last show also I said, 120 crore Hindus have been deeply hurt because of

20:22this act which has happened.

20:25It is unimaginable.

20:27Nobody could imagine that this kind of things could have happened.

20:30500 years of struggle by Hindus to regain this temple and this Bhavya Devan temple had come up.

20:38People from across the world.

20:39Mr. Chopra is saying that the trust should be dismantled.

20:42No, no, Mr. Chopra is making a more serious.

20:44He is claiming that the manner in which the trust was constituted, the VHP and dare I say the centre,

20:50chose its own representatives, excluded people who according to him should have been there, it should have been more inclusive.

20:56And thereby the VHP therefore stops with the Sangh Parivar, you took over the trust.

21:03The trust was not meant only for the Sangh Parivar, it should have been a wider, more inclusive body is

21:08what is being suggested.

21:13Should it be dismantled now?

21:15When we were asked about the constitution of the trust, see now the matter is subsidized.

21:21Karthik, I didn't speak anything.

21:23One by one, Mr. Chopra, let him complete.

21:26Let Mr. Nayar complete.

21:27I never came in between.

21:29Yeah, please go ahead.

21:31See, the trust consists of various saints from various mathas and mathas.

21:38You know the trust.

21:39Who chose them?

21:40You have the list of the trustees also.

21:42How were they decided?

21:43Decided by Mahanji.

21:45No, who decided on them?

21:46Who chose them?

21:47See, as I said, now, see right now we are talking about the incident which happened and the matter is

21:55subsidized.

21:56Now, talking about all these things at this juncture is absolutely unfair.

22:00Sir, the interim reports are institutional failure.

22:03I am asking you a simple question.

22:05No, we are not talking about the report.

22:06We are not talking about the report at all.

22:09We are not even talking about the report.

22:10We are talking about other issues.

22:12See, Randeep, we are…

22:13One minute, one minute, she definitely agree.

22:15Whatever has happened is absolutely wrong.

22:18But let us wait for the SIT to complete its investigation.

22:23Let's not jump the guns.

22:24Now, there is a lot of rumor mongering happening.

22:27A lot of AI-generated videos coming up.

22:30Right now, we are all eagerly waiting for the SIT report to be completed.

22:34And whoever is found to be guilty, we will not cite by them.

22:38As per the law of the land…

22:39You made that point to me earlier also, Shirai.

22:42That is very clear from day one.

22:44Mr. Chopra, you are saying this is not about the report.

22:46Then what is it about?

22:48Is it about control and ownership?

22:50You see, if you go back a couple of years, there was this huge scam that was reported

22:57in the media over the land purchases.

22:59Yes, 2021.

23:00So, we had that scam.

23:00That brought dishonor to Bhagawan Sri Ramlala Virajman.

23:03And after that, the trust at that time was only receiving funds from within India.

23:09Later, they got the FCRA license and started receiving funds from Hindus all over the world.

23:14From every corner of the world, Hindus suddenly sprung up and started donating.

23:17Those Hindus want to know that if they have sent money in dollar, pound, euro, dirham,

23:23has it reached the trust?

23:24At what rate was it received?

23:26At what rate was it converted?

23:28What was that money used for?

23:30Was it used for anything for public purposes, for Shraddhaloos?

23:33Or did it just get deposited?

23:34Did it get used in the construction of the temple?

23:37Mr. Nipendam Mishra did an excellent job in managing the temple construction.

23:43We salute him for doing that.

23:44We have full faith in the Honorable Home Minister and Prime Minister of our country.

23:49Because they, in good faith, created this trust.

23:51But when the members were chosen, somebody else chose those members.

23:55We'd like it to be found out who chose those members.

23:57There were certain senior people from the opposing side who, prior to the mediation,

24:02visited us and other people.

24:03And made us, offered us various concessions.

24:06Because at that time, Mahanji had offered four acres of land at Mani Parwar to be given

24:11to the Muslim side in exchange for the Muslim side giving up its claim.

24:16During the mediation, I cannot get into those details because those were, we had a gag order.

24:20I have only a minute, Mr. Chopra, I have only a minute.

24:24Mr. Chopra, I have only a minute.

24:26He says that, sure.

24:29So, I want, I want Shiraj Nayar.

24:30So, essentially what we say, that the same way, the same way 145 was, was, sir, we want 145 to

24:38be implemented.

24:39We would like the central government to do, close this trust, take control of all assets, appoint a receiver.

24:46And if the central government could not do it, they could request the Honorable Supreme Court to appoint a receiver.

24:51See, yesterday, Govindev Giri Maharaji clarified everything.

24:55And the trust is open for whoever wants to come and check about their donations, whether in cash or in

25:02kind.

25:03Everything is at place.

25:05No, if you all speak over each other, we can't hear.

25:07Mr. Chopra, you, Mr. Chopra, you, Mr. Chopra, this can't be a monologue.

25:13You know, Shiraj Nayar, I want you to conclude by just saying, Mr. Chopra is raising valid points.

25:18You see, the fear is that in your, the BHP believed that they had virtually taken over this movement.

25:25And therefore, today, when the trust and your senior representatives are found to have made supervisory failures,

25:34if not anything else, surely the trust should be disbanded.

25:38And there should be a trust which should be appointed in a manner that it's not some close club of

25:43yours.

25:44This is not some close club.

25:45This is a trust in which millions of people have placed their faith.

25:49The BHP has not taken the theka for all, for whatever happens there.

25:53You'll have to open it up.

25:54You'll have to be subject to scrutiny now.

26:00Yes, Rajdeep, first of all, all statutory obligations, compliances are met.

26:05Audits are done on regular intervals.

26:07Now, yesterday, the treasurer of the trust, Sri Govindev Giri Maharaj, clearly said,

26:13whoever wants to come and check, the trust office is duty-bound to inform very clearly about the donations they

26:21have made to the trust,

26:23whether in kind also.

26:24Now, what is happening is, a temple, Garbhagra is not a museum, to place all the articles given by the

26:30donors.

26:31So, the trust is duty-bound.

26:33Now, second thing, what he is saying is about hijacking and all, this is all right now.

26:38I think it's all uncalled for.

26:41Sir, you may say.

26:42Plus, he is going for a major reforms.

26:43Three people are appointed.

26:46There are going to be major reforms.

26:48Okay, we will wait and see.

26:49Mr. Nayar.

26:49We are ourselves hurt for whatever.

26:51Okay, sir, hurt is enough.

26:53We are also hurt.

26:54Hurt must come with.

26:55Whatever wrongdoing has happened.

26:56No, no, Mr. Nayar.

26:57Mr. Nayar, now I will stop you also.

26:59Because hurt must come with accountability.

27:01And the fact is, questions are being raised by the Nirmohi Akhada and other groups now.

27:05And therefore, the VHP cannot escape responsibility.

27:08You cannot pass the buck anymore.

27:10I appreciate my guests joining me on the show today.

27:14I've run out of time.

27:15I appreciate all of you joining me.

27:17Thank you very much.

27:19Okay, I want to move from there.

27:21As I said, you're seeing now the divided Hindutva family on the issue of how to proceed further on the

27:30Ram Mandir Trust.

27:31We need to proceed further to the other big story.

27:34Because monsoon is wreaking havoc across the country at the moment.

27:37And I want to give you quick updates.

27:39Heavy rains today disrupted traffic in Gurugram.

27:42Where a section of NH48 caved in, prompting repair work traffic diversions.

27:47A school bus carrying students got stuck in a drain amid severe waterlogging, highlighting the city's recurring monsoon woes.

27:54Surat is also battling flood-like conditions after relentless rain.

27:58Road near the famous Sham Mandir on VIP roads turned into rivers.

28:02Vehicles are submerged.

28:03Commuters were stranded.

28:05Mumbai's monsoon misery is also far from over.

28:08From flooded streets in the suburb of Nala Sopara to waterlogged railway tracks.

28:12Normal life continued to be disrupted.

28:16And there was a Spider-Man who was also seen helping commuters safely navigate the flooded stretches.

28:23A three-kilometre-long traffic jam brought the Mumbai-Ahmadabad highway to a crawl after heavy rainfall triggered severe congestion

28:30on the stretch leading to the city.

28:34Cave-ins also reported in Rajasthan's Jaipur where a parked car plunged into a massive sinkhole that opened up overnight.

28:40Fortunately, no one was inside the vehicle.

28:42No injuries were reported.

28:44But there was tragedy that struck Kerala's fragile hills and Wyanard once again was at the epicentre.

28:51A devastating landslide has left at least three people dead, many others missing.

28:57Once again raising troubling questions in a region which is ecologically sensitive.

29:02State Minister T. Siddiqui, in fact, has claimed the disaster was a man-made tragedy,

29:07alleging that mud was dumped in violation of norms there, a tunnel construction site that gave way under heavy rain.

29:15Here is a report.

29:25Fifty seconds of sheer horror.

29:28Many dead, many missing after a landslide hit Kaladi in Wyanard on Tuesday.

29:34The landslide took place near a tunnel construction site near a bridge.

29:41Local residents joined the rescue efforts.

29:47A month ago, there was an order issued to remove it from there as the monsoon season was about to

29:52begin.

29:52But that was not followed and that is what led to this crisis, led to this incident,

29:56is what the government is saying, calling it a man-made disaster,

29:59not a natural disaster or natural landslide like what we witnessed in 2024.

30:04The magnitude is comparatively less, but the efforts, the focus right now is definitely

30:10on saving the last life possible from there at this point.

30:15State Minister T. Siddiqui called the disaster a man-made tragedy.

30:22After the consecutive meetings and directions, even though we have given the directions,

30:27the Hongan authorities didn't take the full responsibility of shifting the soil and mud from there.

30:36It is actually not a natural disaster, natural slide.

30:41It is actually basically a human-made slide is happened.

30:48The med department has issued a red alert in Wayanad and Kauri Kaur districts.

30:52Schools in the area will be closed tomorrow.

30:58A strong wind warning is there and then rain is continuing.

31:02And then considering the impact, it is in Wayanad district is there.

31:06In other districts also, there are many rain-related events.

31:09So that is why, considering the impact, we have issued a red alert.

31:18The site of disaster is close to Mundakai, which was nearly wiped out in a landslide in 2024.

31:26Over 250 people had died in that landslide.

31:33Environmentalists have been warning against indiscriminate construction in Wayanad,

31:38which falls in the ecologically fragile region of Western Ghats.

31:44The landslide in Kaladi is yet another wake-up call for Kerala.

31:49Vishibi Molkeji, Bureau Report, India Today.

31:57So are we facing a climate emergency?

32:00Joining me now, Dr. Roxy Matthew Cole is one of India's leading climate scientists

32:04from the Indian Institute of Tropical Meteorology in Pune.

32:07Appreciate your joining us there, doctor.

32:10Just want to understand, what we are seeing at the moment in the last couple of days

32:15is this huge torrential rainfall across the Western Ghats

32:20and interestingly making up for any shortfall from what was a rather dry month of June.

32:25So we had a dry month of June, a late monsoon,

32:28and now these short, sharp, heavy bursts of rain in several parts of the country.

32:33Do you see this as part of a climate emergency, part of climate changing patterns,

32:38these extreme weather conditions?

32:42You are totally right, Rajseep.

32:44In fact, we are seeing this pattern for several years.

32:48In fact, decades now.

32:50That's what our research shows.

32:52In fact, if you look at this year,

32:54we had a very weak start owing to an early, you know,

32:58riding on a climate change signal, on a global warming signal.

33:00So we had a weak start.

33:02The deficit during the month of June, the first month of the monsoon season was about up to 40%.

33:08And the last few days, especially in the last two, three days,

33:12that deficit came down to about 17 to 20%.

33:18So, which means that we are going through a phase where we are having a monsoon

33:25with long, dry spells, dry periods where there is almost no rain,

33:30and then short spells of heavy rain.

33:32And this is a very clear signature of global warming.

33:36I should say, on top of global warming,

33:38we have the effect of the El Nino in the Pacific as well,

33:41which generally weakens the monsoon winds.

33:43So we had a weak start of the monsoon.

33:45The monsoon circulation was weak.

33:48Generally, the moisture supply also was weak.

33:51But the oceans are warming.

33:52So when there are episodes, when the monsoon winds strengthen up,

33:58all that moisture from global warming dumps and powers in a few days to a few hours' time.

34:04And that's what we saw over the Western Guards, over Mumbai, parts of Maharashtra,

34:10right now happening.

34:11Even in Pune, we had heavy rain.

34:13You just mentioned Dr. El Nino,

34:16because there's been a lot of talk about El Nino across the world.

34:20This could be an El Nino year as the Pacific continues to warm.

34:24Do you see this El Nino factor affecting the monsoon this year in the July to September period?

34:30Will we now see another dry spell after having seen this torrential rain of the last few months?

34:37Some parts of North and Central India continue to have a weak monsoon.

34:42Western India getting huge rain.

34:43Are we seeing diverse extreme patterns again?

34:49Exactly.

34:50So the northern parts deficit is clearly, you know, linked to how the El Nino works.

34:57So generally, El Nino is a phenomena of warm waters over the centerline East Pacific.

35:02But since the Pacific is large and the area of warm waters also is quite, you know, large in volume,

35:10it affects the ocean atmosphere interaction, the circulation, including our monsoon circulation.

35:16So the winds, the monsoon winds that should penetrate inland towards the northern belt and all,

35:23do not penetrate inland as usual, as often during the normal years when there is no El Nino.

35:29So this time, as usual, we had a weak start.

35:34Monsoon, of course, have the wet and active phases of monsoon.

35:37The onset of monsoon itself was weak and we saw a weak progression towards the northern belt as well.

35:44In fact, the monsoon should have covered the entire part of India by now,

35:47but it hasn't covered the northwestern parts of India and insufficiently to the northern states.

35:54You know, one of the questions that often arises, though, doctor, is that these extreme weather conditions,

35:59governments say they have faced force of nature, what can we do?

36:02Or are they man-made, as is being suggested in Vyanat, because of wanton destruction of forests,

36:07the reckless construction in ecologically sensitive areas?

36:10How much of these extreme weather conditions, like in the Western Ghats,

36:14are being caused because of what we, the humans, are doing, not necessarily acts of God or nature?

36:23Great questions, Rajsteep.

36:26The extreme rains are a result of, especially the extreme rains in the volume that we see right now,

36:34are a result of global warming due to increased carbon emissions at all on a global level.

36:38But the floods, landslides, and the destruction, the disaster that we see locally are a result of,

36:47you know, local changes that we made, land use changes, development without environmental and climate assessment.

36:55And this is what we should look forward to, especially in Western Ghats,

37:00the change in forest cover, the development without considering the slope and terrain,

37:11and the extreme rains over that region.

37:14And this is the same for the Himalayas as well.

37:17So we see that this increases the soil erosion,

37:20this increases the, you know, decreases the stability of the slope and the terrain.

37:26And when extreme rains due to climate change lash over that,

37:30the soil and the mountains and the hills cannot hold on anymore.

37:33It comes down as mudslide, landslide, and flash floods,

37:37because there is no space for that water to sink in and be absorbed.

37:42And this is the state of our rivers as well.

37:45When that water comes downstream, we see that the rivers are squeezed or encroached.

37:51And this is the same for whether we take a city like Mumbai or, you know, other areas as well.

37:59Okay. Doctor, you know, in a sense, we wish we could carry this forward.

38:04You can watch the entire discussion we had on our website.

38:07But I appreciate you joining me on the show here tonight.

38:10Thanks very much. We are indeed in times of a climate emergency.

38:14The world is talking about a new card in football, and it's called the Trump card.

38:19FIFA's decision to suspend the red card to American striker Follarin Balogun

38:24has triggered a worldwide outrage.

38:27But the decision did not help the U.S. much on the field as they lost to Belgium 1-4.

38:31Either way, there are question marks over the way the U.S. president

38:36has tried to dictate terms to the footballing world.

38:39Take a look.

38:40So I saw the play, and I'm a person that loves sports and was a good athlete.

38:47And I understand sports really well, really well.

38:52And that wasn't a foul.

38:54That wasn't even an infraction.

38:56That was two guys running full speed that happened to crash into each other.

38:59You can't take your foot and properly place it on somebody else's foot when you're going,

39:05no, these were two great athletes that got tangled up.

39:11And this referee, who is a little bit suspect, if you check his past, it would have been unfair.

39:21But when they take your best player, or just about, they have some great players,

39:25and they say you can't play, that's very unfair.

39:30Yes, I asked for a review by FIFA.

39:35There is a new card in football, the Trump card,

39:38which supersedes even the red,

39:40as stunned football fans across the world found out this week.

39:49Why not them?

39:51Why not Belgium?

39:53Donald Trump may have successfully gotten USA striker

39:57for Laren Balogun's red card overturned,

39:59but it was Belgium who had the last laugh

40:02in their round of 16 game against the hosts.

40:06The USA didn't really take charge, and Belgium did.

40:10To make the matter even more ironic,

40:12Belgium ran right against the USA and Balogun.

40:15Seen by many as the key player in the American side,

40:18did not even manage to get on the score sheet.

40:21We're going to be in trouble here.

40:23It's a shocker of a goal from the co-host's point of view.

40:28And Romelu Lukaku, who scored the fourth goal for Belgium,

40:32celebrated the occasion with a Trumpian dance.

40:37And he helps the Belgians make their way to the quarter-finals.

40:41To rub salt into the proverbial wounds,

40:44Belgium then tweeted,

40:45Overturn this, after the match was done,

40:48taking a not-so-subtle jab at their adversaries

40:51and serving a reminder that sporting battles are won on the field.

40:57It was a tournament to be proud of for the co-hosts,

41:00but the manner of Balogun's red card being overturned

41:03will doubtless dominate the discourse far more than

41:06their on-field performance in the coming days.

41:10As for Belgium, their golden generation members

41:13are either ageing or retired,

41:15but they showed that they still have what it takes to get big results

41:19even when the tide is against them.

41:22Sports Bureau, India Today.

41:28So is it time to show Donald Trump the red card?

41:31That's the question I want to raise.

41:33Joining me now, Nikhil Naas,

41:34Consulting Sports Editor here at TV Today.

41:37Alan Linkman, Political Analyst

41:39and Distinguished Professor of History

41:40at American University,

41:42writing about Donald Trump for a while.

41:44A. Scott Bolden, Criminal Defence Attorney,

41:47former chair of the D.C. Democratic Party.

41:49Appreciate both of you joining us.

41:51I want to come to you, Mr. Linkman, first.

41:53You've been very scathing about Donald Trump over the years.

41:56Do you believe that he again crossed a certain red line

41:59he deserves a red card

42:00for trying to interfere in a global event like this?

42:04He deserves a red card

42:06far more than the soccer player did.

42:09This is typical Trump egomania and overreaching.

42:15Remember, this is a president who has said,

42:18uniquely among presidents in office,

42:21I can do anything I want.

42:24It doesn't matter.

42:26There are no constraints

42:27from other branches of government,

42:29from the courts of law.

42:32I am akin to the sun king,

42:35Louis XIV of France,

42:37who reportedly said,

42:38I am the state.

42:41So it is totally consistent

42:43with how Trump operates

42:45for him to belly flop

42:47and exert undue,

42:50I think,

42:51illicit political influence

42:54on the World Cup.

42:56Secondly,

42:57it also illustrates

42:58another trait of Donald Trump,

43:01which is his overweening ego,

43:04you know,

43:04claiming how much he knows

43:06about sports.

43:08You know,

43:08he claimed he knows more about war

43:11than the generals.

43:12We've seen what a disaster

43:13that is with the fiasco

43:15of the war in Iran.

43:17He claims to be

43:18a stable genius,

43:20claims to know more about

43:22building than anyone else,

43:24even though he hasn't built

43:25anything worthwhile

43:26in decades.

43:27He just lays out his name.

43:30And I do believe,

43:31and I've been involved

43:32in competitive sports

43:33for more than 60 years,

43:36I'm still competing,

43:37at age 79,

43:39that what Trump did

43:40put a pall

43:42over the U.S. team.

43:44The U.S. team

43:45did not operate

43:47as expected

43:48and as they had

43:50in the past.

43:51They were slow.

43:52They were confused.

43:54They didn't follow

43:56what should be

43:57a winning plan.

43:59And I do think

44:00that what Donald Trump did

44:02weighed heavily on them.

44:04I call it

44:04the Trump curse.

44:07The Trump curse.

44:08A. Scott Bolton,

44:09are you as harsh

44:10on the U.S. president?

44:11What if he is a sports fan

44:12and felt that,

44:14you know,

44:14as a sports fan,

44:16he carried the weight

44:17of the White House

44:18and tried to get

44:19a red card rescinded?

44:23Dead on.

44:23I don't have a whole lot

44:24to add.

44:26Even he and I

44:27share the same first name.

44:28But let me just say this.

44:31If you look at the play,

44:34and we're all sports fans,

44:35and I'm always pulling

44:37for the Americans

44:38and FIFA and the Olympics,

44:39right?

44:40But there's a certain

44:41fairness about it.

44:42What's appropriate?

44:43And what I would only add

44:45is to capture

44:47how outrageous

44:49this is,

44:50whereby the head of state

44:52of the United States,

44:53who is hosting

44:55the FIFA games,

44:56who FIFA gave

44:58a World Peace Award to,

45:00that the president

45:01of the state,

45:02not the coach of the team,

45:03but the president,

45:04calls the head of FIFA

45:05and inherent in his conversation,

45:08says,

45:09I asked him to look at it.

45:10Well,

45:10the only reason you ask him

45:11to look at it

45:12is because you're conveying,

45:13you not only disagree with it,

45:15but you want him to change it,

45:17and you're the host country.

45:19Inherent in that conversation

45:20is advocating

45:22that that red card

45:24be pulled or suspended

45:26when the president

45:27was not even at the game.

45:28You can look at the video

45:30and see how damaging

45:31this foot-to-ankle piece was.

45:35They were both

45:36going for the ball,

45:37but if you notice

45:38the American bulldogan,

45:40he has his hand

45:41across the chest

45:43of the other player

45:44on top of hitting his ankle,

45:46which could have been

45:47very dangerous

45:48in and of itself.

45:49Now, listen,

45:49I'm not trying to second-guess

45:51the red card,

45:51but I wasn't there

45:53and Donald Trump wasn't there.

45:54The referee was there,

45:55and there's no prior bad acts

45:57on the part of this referee.

45:58FIFA came out

45:59and defended him.

46:01Okay, you know,

46:01Nikhil,

46:02while the attack is on Trump,

46:04what about FIFA itself?

46:05They seem very craven.

46:06They seem to have

46:07been virtually ready

46:09to accept what Donald Trump said.

46:11So what if you're

46:12the host country?

46:12Surely FIFA is there

46:14to protect the game,

46:15not to protect the interests

46:16of one country

46:17or Donald Trump?

46:18Well, you're absolutely right,

46:19but Rajdeep,

46:20what's happened

46:21really doesn't surprise me.

46:22For one,

46:24you know,

46:24FIFA by itself

46:25haven't covered themselves

46:26in glory

46:27with lots of corruption

46:28scandals there.

46:29Things have come to this

46:31that UEFA,

46:31which is again

46:32another corrupt organization,

46:33has come out on X

46:35and criticized this.

46:37Sepp Blatter,

46:37who was himself involved

46:39in multiple corruption scandals,

46:41has come out and said,

46:42no, this is not done.

46:43But as I said,

46:44this is not unprecedented.

46:45I'm going to talk about

46:46this particular World Cup.

46:47Cristiano Ronaldo

46:48got a red card

46:49before this World Cup started.

46:51That red card

46:52would have meant

46:52three-mat suspension for him.

46:54You know what FIFA did?

46:55Because they could not

46:57start this FIFA World Cup

46:58without Cristiano Ronaldo

47:00playing those first two games

47:01for Portugal.

47:02So they've suspended

47:03his sentence

47:03so that he can serve it

47:05at a time

47:05after the World Cup is over.

47:07This happened

47:07at this World Cup.

47:08So it's not unprecedented.

47:10And of course,

47:10corruption scandals

47:11have been there

47:12for a long time.

47:13There is an Article 47

47:15which they can invoke

47:16and that is exactly

47:17what they've done.

47:18But that only happens

47:19if a referee

47:19has made a major error.

47:21Error in the sense that

47:22he's given the red card

47:23to the wrong player.

47:24Not basis of his decision.

47:26That decision cannot be questioned

47:27and FIFA never interferes.

47:29But they've invoked that,

47:30of course,

47:31you know,

47:31pandering to the President's ego.

47:33The interesting thing though,

47:35Mr. Lichtman,

47:35in a country where football

47:36is not the number one sport,

47:38huge crowds have gathered.

47:40Do you think

47:40the public

47:41is with Donald Trump

47:42on this issue?

47:43That here is the President

47:44of the United States

47:45siding with an American player?

47:48I don't think

47:49the American people

47:50are with him on that.

47:52You know,

47:52Donald Trump claims

47:53to be the most popular,

47:55the greatest President ever.

47:57In fact,

47:58if you look at

47:58not one survey,

48:00but the consensus

48:01of surveys,

48:03he is the least

48:05esteemed President

48:06at this point

48:07in a Presidential term

48:09in modern history.

48:12No, but on this issue,

48:13this is not,

48:13but on the issue

48:14of a sport,

48:15would Americans

48:17like the President

48:18to stand up for America,

48:19to stand up for the flag,

48:20to stand up for their players?

48:22He's not standing up

48:23for America.

48:24He's not standing up

48:25for the flag.

48:26If America means anything,

48:28it means fairness,

48:30justice,

48:31fair play.

48:32What Donald Trump

48:33has done

48:34is just the opposite,

48:37using his power

48:38as the most powerful person

48:40in the world

48:41to leap into

48:43a situation

48:44which he has

48:45no business

48:46getting involved in.

48:47Sports should be

48:49free of political

48:51interference.

48:52Once you taint it

48:53with political interference,

48:55you undermine

48:56the entire sport.

48:59And as I said,

49:00I do think

49:01what Donald Trump did

49:02not only

49:03has disillusioned

49:04a lot of Americans,

49:05but I think

49:06it hurt the team.

49:09Very difficult

49:10to explain.

49:11the terrible performance

49:12of that team.

49:14Okay.

49:15And we could also argue

49:16that Belgium

49:16were by far

49:17the better side.

49:18But a quick final word

49:19from you,

49:20Scott Bolden,

49:21because sports

49:21and politics

49:22in an ideal world

49:23should not mix,

49:24but we've seen it

49:24in this country,

49:25between India and Pakistan

49:26on cricket fields

49:27it mixes.

49:28We saw it

49:28during the Cold War

49:29when Olympics

49:31were boycotted.

49:31Do you believe

49:32that politicians

49:34like to push themselves

49:35on center stage

49:37whenever there's

49:38a global sporting event?

49:39Donald Trump

49:40is no different

49:40to many others.

49:41He may not be different,

49:43but he oversteps

49:44his bounds

49:45and extends his bounds

49:47as an executive

49:48beyond anything

49:50in history

49:50of this United States

49:52of America.

49:53Listen,

49:54you know,

49:54the one thing

49:55we haven't talked about

49:56is with this

49:58red card suspension,

49:59had the U.S. won

50:01and beat Belgium

50:02and that Beligon

50:03had been a star

50:04in that game,

50:06if, right,

50:07what would we be

50:08talking about

50:09and what would

50:10Americans be feeling?

50:11I'll be honest with you,

50:13I would not have been

50:14feeling great about it

50:15because it's one thing

50:16to win at all costs,

50:17but it's another thing

50:18to win unfairly.

50:19And you can't name me

50:21another president

50:23or head of state

50:25that has personally

50:26put his thumb

50:28on the button,

50:29right,

50:29or on the scale

50:30in an effort

50:31to support

50:32his national team.

50:34It's not his place

50:35to do that.

50:36It would be the coach

50:37or the owner

50:38of the team

50:38and so forth

50:39and so on

50:39who would have

50:40filed an appeal.

50:42Here,

50:43poetic justice,

50:44if you will,

50:45or the gods above us

50:46somehow figured it out

50:48and they didn't play well.

50:50To my disappointment,

50:51they didn't play well

50:52and Belgium won

50:55notwithstanding

50:56the Trump card.

50:57You know,

50:58what's going to happen

50:59is now there'll be

50:59probably a tariff

51:00on Belgian chocolates.

51:01That's just one of the jokes

51:02that's doing the rounds,

51:03but I appreciate

51:05my guests joining us

51:07and speaking their minds

51:08out so clearly.

51:09Thank you all very much

51:10for joining me.

51:10Rajiv, just 10 seconds.

51:11Yeah, very quickly,

51:1210 seconds.

51:13I'm just going to sum up.

51:13The only good thing

51:14to have come out

51:15of all of this

51:15is that finally

51:16President Trump

51:17stood up for

51:19a son of two

51:20African immigrants.

51:21That's one way

51:22of making America

51:23great again.

51:24Ah, yes.

51:24Nice, nice one.

51:25Okay, on that note,

51:27let me tell you

51:28what our viewer response is.

51:29Trump card versus red card.

51:30Shiva, SSR99 says,

51:32Trump card was ridiculous

51:34that way.

51:34Had our Prime Minister

51:35intervened

51:36for all the wrong

51:36dismisses of Thindulkar,

51:38then maybe he would have

51:39scored at least another

51:4010th to 15th centuries

51:41more.

51:42Narendra Modi

51:43was not there

51:44when Sachin was there,

51:45but you could argue

51:45that could have happened

51:46to a Virat

51:47or a Shubhman.

51:48Parag Hadez says,

51:49why blame Trump?

51:50Blame FIFA

51:51for listening to him.

51:52FIFA has lost

51:52its credibility.

51:53Trump cannot be expected

51:55to do anything sensible.

51:56Santosh writes,

51:57if Trump can revoke

51:59a red card,

51:59next FIFA may need

52:00two referees,

52:01one on the pitch,

52:02one in the Oval Office.

52:03Nice one there.

52:04Sujit Sansgiri says,

52:05it was a bad deal.

52:06He looked bad interfering

52:07and the US looked bad

52:08getting thrashed

52:09by Belgium.

52:10Let me give you

52:11a my take as well

52:12on this.

52:13As always,

52:14I feel strongly about sports.

52:15It's an emotional bond.

52:16Donald Trump

52:17has a deserved reputation

52:19of being a big bully,

52:20a man-child

52:21who believes

52:21he can get away

52:22with bad behaviour

52:23or set his own rules.

52:25Which is why

52:25it came as no surprise

52:26that he pushed FIFA

52:27to rescind the red card

52:29given to a US player

52:30during the ongoing

52:31World Cup football.

52:32What did come as a surprise

52:34was FIFA's

52:34abject capitulation.

52:36The body which runs

52:37the world's most

52:37widely played sport

52:38has not for the first time

52:40shown itself

52:40to lack moral courage

52:42and stand up

52:42for the sport's ethos.

52:44Yet despite Trump

52:45getting the rules bent,

52:47the good news was

52:48that Belgium

52:48thumped the US

52:494-1.

52:50Sports, my friends,

52:51is a great leveller.

52:53Trump may have tried

52:53to play big boss

52:54but on the sports field

52:56what matters

52:56is who scores the goals

52:58not who has

52:59more superpower leverage.

53:00Trump won't change.

53:02Hopefully,

53:02FIFA will.

53:04Okay,

53:05just about enough time

53:06to leave you

53:07with our image

53:08of the day

53:09because 6th July

53:10saw the curtain

53:11not just on the US team

53:12but also the end

53:13of the World Cup journey

53:14of one of the greats

53:15of our game.

53:16Cristiano Ronaldo

53:17of Portugal

53:18bid an emotional farewell

53:19after his team

53:21lost to Spain

53:221-0.

53:23Playing in his 6th

53:24and last World Cup

53:25itself a record,

53:27Cristiano was seen

53:27in tears

53:28after the final

53:29whistle.

53:30He was inconsolable

53:31after the heart-breaking loss.

53:34Ronaldo remains

53:35the only player

53:36in the world

53:36to score a goal

53:37in 6th World Cup.

53:38Maybe he too

53:39was a bit larger

53:41than life.

53:43Maybe he

53:43perhaps

53:44needed to step away

53:46sooner

53:47rather than later.

53:49Thanks for watching.

53:50You stay well.

53:51Stay safe.

53:52Good night.

53:52Goodbye.

53:53Jayin.

53:55Namaskar.

53:56Shubhraatri.

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