00:00all right let's get to business shall we so here's what i'm gonna offer you
00:08i understand you know we're waiting for a shoe to drop like you're waiting for something like
00:16i got into an argument with jim costa earlier because he's like hope casting and he's like
00:20he's got like his little poker visor on he's the banker at monopoly we saved nine million dollars
00:27to buy us so we save six million here and i'm like jim that's wonderful but they're spending it
00:32now if there's a sign in trade that's about to happen which would be an incredible hope of mine
00:38but hope is not a strategy then i will have a greatly different reaction to all of this that's
00:44one but we don't have the advantage the privilege of letting it play out we're here with you guys
00:50right now so point number two is something i'm more upset about i think it is symptomatic of where
00:57we're at in today's society and where we're at in today's sports world the pistons could have signed
01:04a one-legged dog and the people who cover this team would would cape up for it i swear to
01:12you
01:12here's how you know you can't trust anything you read sometimes if i can't find legitimate criticism
01:19of said team i'm not listening to your opinion because everything isn't awesome all the time
01:26otherwise the pistons would be your three-time champions or the pistons wouldn't have got walk
01:32like a dog in game seven against the calves or wouldn't have needed a franz wagner injury to just
01:37survive bum-ass orlando what i'm reading today about john collins is the equivalent of some
01:44revisionist history some form of basketball porno here's an idea for all the people who think
01:52they're so smart about hoops and ball knowers take your hands off yours and pull up the metrics
01:59there is nothing metrically to suggest that john collins is even a better player than tobias harris
02:06this is the definition of a lateral move period john collins does not create his own shot tobias did
02:16john collins shoots a slightly higher percentage from three but one problem he's a low volume shooter
02:23right when you take three and make one 40 to 37 from tobias it doesn't translate the same way
02:32if you're a high volume player taking on average seven and a half threes in the aggregate it makes
02:38a big difference john collins is a worse defensive player now if you just want to do the lowbrow thing
02:49of but he's younger once again the data is the data you want to tell me john collins is tougher
02:56we're not gonna take any stuff we're gonna go belt to ass you can do all that but this is
03:03my issue
03:04these are sideways moves you're not worse no but you're not this whole thing started with
03:11big game hunting where did we go from trajan with an elephant gun to trajan shooting squirrels with a bb
03:20gun
03:21like i'm sorry what i have read about isaiah joe is simply just falsehoods he's a really nice bench
03:30player he's not a starter not on a championship level team john collins for tobias push it best
03:38what you gain you lose what you lose you gain net net and metrically technically i could be a richard
03:48and say tobias is better right i don't want to do that i want to be fair my problem is
03:54the very
03:54people who listen to this show are being poisoned all day by a bunch of people more interested in
04:00grabbing their own flagpole than just having a thought it's okay to say this is a sideways move
04:08these are not the moves that people signed up for like i'm sorry like the job of the pistons this
04:16offseason was to take a seismic leap forward what we have been given so far is well they tried with
04:24kawai didn't get him well they tried with tyler here and by the way here's how little i think of
04:30what they've done if you offered me tyler hero versus what they've done i would take tyler hero
04:35and i don't want tyler hero rico did this is like john collins you should go to get a tack
04:43mckinstry
04:44or tack mckinley's dead grandmother framed photo put john collins in there and raise it to the
04:50rafters as first ballot detroit basketball free agent hall of fame this is what they always do
04:57the pistons had an opportunity to go all in and get a lot better and instead they went back to
05:05the
05:05coney played it i think and again unless something big is smoldering and god i hope it is and that's
05:12what you're hoping for a sign and trade open and you're like oh okay that's why you went and got
05:18collins because collins three year 51 million but only one year is guaranteed so that means you're
05:24not really tied to him beyond this year yeah i'm with you because what i did not see is the
05:30robin i
05:31didn't see that second score i haven't seen that yet and we all said that's the major thing right there
05:37what you've done is you moved from one side of the street to the other side of the street and
05:42as you
05:43sit here again in real time we do not get the benefit of waiting in real time you have tripled
05:50down on a core of cade a sewer and durin and sprinkled in improved shooting fine isaiah joe is better
05:59than
05:59what you're putting out there but there's no world if i said to fans at the start of the this
06:04is my
06:04problem with the basketball media and it's not just local let me be very clear i don't want this
06:08to be some faux ad hominem attack about local or the beat writers getting all sensitive this is
06:15everyone this is what you're getting in sports now guys you're being fed a lie because the lie
06:21generates clicks people don't want to read reality they want to read fantasy they want the verbal
06:27equivalent of having their beanbag juggled the problem is then you get up here and try to just be an
06:33adult provide some data and say look these are marginal moves and now you're the bad guy no i'm
06:39not a bad guy no it's funny because before the show we were sitting here talking in our brief pre
06:44-show
06:45meeting as we watched the tigers win their sweep the yankees and and there's windhorse saying
06:51everything that you're saying like guys what did he say he basically said i expected more out of the
06:56pistons and it's been kind of nah like they they got collins but they really haven't addressed their needs
07:03and you know uh kendrick perkins is like what are you talking about collins is you know he's that
07:09guy and he's this and he's windhorse is like no he's not like no he's not like no pistons had
07:15an
07:15opportunity all year long and we've been waiting for it but from the trade deadline when we said okay
07:21well maybe we'll give trajan he'll make the moves in the offseason they have the cap space they have
07:26everything there he came out and he gave us his unnamed core three players we're assuming that two
07:34of them are still on the team one may or may not be on the west coast right now trying
07:38to negotiate a
07:39deal with another team i don't know who the core is more importantly i don't see where you found
07:45a second score that will make your team better for next year i guys the east will not be the
07:53same
07:54east as it was this year it will be better guys who came off injuries will be back yeah okay
08:00and now
08:00you got kawai back in toronto you got yannis down in miami like the east it's not going to be
08:06this
08:06cakewalk there you go no and and again here you want to do this like i don't i don't we
08:11don't need
08:11to make it lowbrow but like tobias is about a 13 point a game player john collins about 13 point
08:17a game player last year yeah the clippers were a bad defensive team and john collins is part of that
08:21reason even if you wanted to go on a win share basis okay it's kind of like a basketball equivalent
08:26war i mean tobias wins in that category i'm just making a point i'm not anti john collins but i'm
08:32not going to sit here and lie to my audience just because it's easy i can't believe what i'm reading
08:37today it's truly stunning here i i'll be very open if you gave me the choice of john collins or
08:45just
08:45bringing unk back i would have taken tobias okay that tells you that's a marginal move because
08:53any move they made i needed it to be undebatable that it was an upgrade and here's where my biggest
09:01fear after doing all of this and if you tell me somehow or another they came up with a number
09:07that
09:07jaylen durin agreed with and they brought him back i still don't see how you got better you're the same
09:13you you just you got better shooting but you took away your second best shot creator yeah john
09:20collins does not create his own shots now you want to sell me he's a lob merchant fine well how
09:26many
09:26of those do i need really and i'll say it again that what durin is correct look i'm being careful
09:32if there's something else god bless i'll be ready to rock i want to know positivity no but we don't
09:39know
09:39that yet this is live radio and we're just doing what we see right now all right paulie i owe
09:45you one
09:45i didn't realize we got on that late i know we're over time that's on me 248-539-9797
09:52uh and we'll tee it up after this
09:55you
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