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Willard and Dibs react to Rafael Devers saying that the media blew his incident with Tony Vitello out of proportion. Isn't that what makes his contract so lucrative, though?
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00:00Ann Killian's going to join us in exactly two hours.
00:03And, you know, Ann took a leadership role yesterday that might make the Giants jealous.
00:10She was a leader yesterday.
00:12Yep.
00:12She took the first question, and my favorite question of the entire press conference was
00:16she goes through this whole lengthy thing looking for an answer about the Pride Night situation
00:24and Buster Posey.
00:25He waited.
00:26He kindly, like, he's a respectful guy.
00:28He waited for the whole question, and then he just looked at her and goes,
00:33we're not going to talk about this.
00:36And she just goes, really?
00:40It's my favorite question of the whole day because not only is it a good question,
00:46but I thought it, and we'll ask her about this, it captured what you've been saying.
00:52I think she got done with the question, and he goes, we're not going to do that.
00:56And she's like, then why are we here?
00:59Right.
00:59Really?
01:00You're really not going to answer it?
01:02And she's like, really?
01:03We're really not going to answer it?
01:05I just.
01:05Okay.
01:06I'm imagining Mike Dunleavy last night after they make the pick,
01:10and tell me about Yaxalendeborg at 11.
01:13We're not going to answer draft questions.
01:16Really?
01:17Yeah, we're just not going to answer draft questions tonight.
01:20If you want to ask me about, you know, my playing career or my dad's playing career
01:24or, you know, where I parked my car at the facility, yeah,
01:27but we're not going to answer draft questions.
01:29You know what I was hoping for from Dunleavy last night.
01:32I really wanted him to go Valkyries.
01:34I was begging, especially after a little argument in the war room.
01:38I'll tell you what, guys, I'd love to talk to you about Yaxalendeborg,
01:43but I just had a fight with Joe Lacob, and I'm exhausted.
01:47Yeah.
01:47And I just, I don't think I've got it in me to talk about this.
01:51Second round's tomorrow.
01:52How about if we just do it then?
01:54Can I go get some sleep?
01:55Yeah.
01:55Boy, that was what I was hoping for.
01:57The pre-draft run-up just wore me out.
01:59Didn't get it.
02:00No.
02:00Didn't get it, but.
02:01And I do like that he kind of joked around about the exchange with Joe Lacob,
02:04because I don't think it's a big thing.
02:06I don't think it's a medium thing.
02:08I don't even think it's a small thing.
02:10It's a tiny thing, but it just, it's kind of annoying.
02:14And I'm sure if you're Mike Dunleavy and you have to answer questions about a war room,
02:19like, exchange, that's got to be annoying.
02:22Well, okay, sure, we're annoying.
02:25Of course we're annoying.
02:27So are they.
02:28And so are all of you listening.
02:31Wow.
02:31No, no, no.
02:32Honestly, we're people.
02:33We're all annoying.
02:35Like, I.
02:36Don't be disrespectful.
02:37Well, let's talk about this for a second.
02:39So, I love, I love everybody caping up for all the millionaires and billionaires
02:47who are forced to answer questions.
02:51Oh, gosh.
02:54That must be awful.
02:56Awful.
02:56For $300 million.
02:59For $300 million.
03:03Would you work with us?
03:07Because here's what I would love to talk to our listeners about today, honestly.
03:12Because this is broader than what happened in the Giants dugout yesterday or what happened in the Warriors war room.
03:19888-957-9570.
03:22Can we talk about this phrase that Rafi apparently used because it was his translator who said it,
03:29but I'm going to trust that this was the phrase that Rafi used when he accused the media of always,
03:36quote,
03:37blowing things out of proportion.
03:40I sat with this, I slept on this, I thought about this this morning, I find it just fascinating.
03:49Unending fascination with this idea of everything that has happened over there at first base in Miami being blown out
03:56of proportion.
03:57Makes me want to ask a giant or a warrior or anybody involved.
04:02Do you think that the entire picture of what you do for a living is blown out of proportion?
04:10How about that?
04:12Right.
04:13What about how much we care about the outcome of your games?
04:17What about how much we care about your BABIP and your war?
04:24And when you swing through 95 mile an hour fastballs right down the middle of the plate and we lose
04:29our minds out of frustration
04:31because we want you to so badly represent our city and win.
04:36Yet most of us have never met you.
04:38Most of us never will.
04:40The closest we can get to you is maybe about 35 yards from you if we've got a great ticket
04:47that we've got to use our hard earned money to buy.
04:52But we cry.
04:53We cry when they win.
04:54We show up at parades one million strong.
04:57We care about this.
04:59It's such an unbelievably internal way.
05:03Do you think that that is blown out of proportion?
05:07What is it about your gift, Rafi, that's actually worth $300 million?
05:17And do you on some level go to bed at night and think, that's kind of blown out of proportion?
05:24Right, the ability to hit a round hurled object with a piece of wood and that's worth $300 million.
05:31And you've got teachers in Oakland Unified School District who are grinding through 180 school days and they're getting paid
05:37$51,000 and having to put up with a lot more than just, oh, you know, there's a two seamer
05:42in my hands and I couldn't get to it.
05:44Oh, well, check my paycheck.
05:46Yeah, I got to, there's another $174,000.
05:49Cha-ching.
05:50Yeah, blown out of proportion.
05:51Like, think about it.
05:53So it's 645 tonight.
05:55This is, and I am not diminishing the efforts and the talent that is elite when it comes to sport
06:03or quite frankly anything else.
06:05But that's the job.
06:06The job is for you to probably get to the ballpark shortly.
06:10They've got a lot of work to do.
06:12There's a lot of working out.
06:14There's a lot of practice.
06:15There's all the things that go into the moment.
06:17And then, and then this whole city, this whole city, probably about 40,000, 35,000, 40,000 strong in
06:24person, thousands and thousands and thousands more tapped in at 645 tonight on various platforms, whether it be TV, radio,
06:35streaming, or just following along online.
06:38Thousands and thousands more will be tapped in, and your job is to go up to home plate four times
06:45and try to hit a ball.
06:47And we're so tapped into that that some of us will come to work tomorrow morning knowing exactly what you
06:54did without even having to look it up because we watched.
06:57We're that emotionally attached to what you do in those four at-bats.
07:03So, excuse me if my reaction is how dare you say that we're blowing your bad moments out of proportion
07:15because we super-duper blow your good ones out of proportion as well.
07:21He hit a grand slam in front of my 12-year-old son at a game we attended earlier this
07:26year to break a 4-4 tie against the Chicago White Sox.
07:30And my son has video of it and didn't stop talking about it for a week.
07:36He still references it.
07:38Is he blowing it out of proportion?
07:40What changed in his life for that grand slam, Rafi?
07:43So, this is the job.
07:46You are lucky enough to be a professional athlete and make more money than any human being could ever imagine.
07:54And the reason for that is because we blow all of this out of proportion.
07:58All of it.
07:59So, I am not denying your claim.
08:01You're right.
08:03We're blowing what happened at first base out of proportion.
08:06The same way we blow every single thing you do out of proportion.
08:12And that's why you're rich and so are every kid and grandkid and great-grandkid you have for your entire
08:19life.
08:19And think about your son.
08:21Like, he videoed the grand slam and he has that.
08:24And I'm sure he's watched it 37 times and showed his friends.
08:27And he's blowing that out of proportion.
08:29It was a grown man hitting a ball over a fence.
08:33And it's special because we all make this feel special.
08:36We love sports.
08:37And you think about when they won in 2010 and you wept.
08:41You're a grown man and you're crying because you attach a certain amount of emotion to it.
08:45We all blow all of it out of proportion.
08:48And, you know, the World Cup right now is great.
08:50And you've got 70,000 fans going to these games.
08:53And it's basically 22 people running around kicking a ball to each other or away from each other and trying
09:00to smack it into a goal.
09:01But this thing is a absolute global phenomenon because we attach a certain amount of nationalism to it and pride
09:09and all the rest of it.
09:10It's really blown out of proportion when you think about, like, general life.
09:14But that's the beauty of sports.
09:16And so the high points are super high and we blow those out of proportion.
09:20So when you have a moment like you did on Sunday, yeah, that gets blown out of proportion.
09:25But deal with it because that's what you signed up for, Rafi.
09:28There you go.
09:29So, like, that's how I look at this.
09:31I know a lot of people are going to come at a media member saying, hey, you should talk to
09:36the media more.
09:36I'm actually not even saying that.
09:38I don't care if Rafi doesn't talk to the media.
09:41He hasn't talked to the media for a year.
09:43Hasn't stopped me from rooting for him to get hits.
09:46I don't care if he talks to the media.
09:47I have my opinion about it.
09:49It makes you a lesser teammate.
09:51That's my opinion about it.
09:53It has nothing to do with us.
09:54It has nothing to do with whether or not he'll come on the show.
09:57It has to do with the fact that you are now kicking those responsibilities to your teammates.
10:02And that makes you a lesser teammate.
10:05And this has always been Rafi's reputation.
10:08Right.
10:08So it's fine.
10:10But, like, if I'm assessing anybody at the job that they do, it'd be no different than anybody in our
10:18building.
10:19If there was somebody here that just, on a daily basis, was like, no, I'm going to let everybody else
10:27take care of all the stuff.
10:29Because I don't feel like it.
10:32But I'm allowed to have the opinion of, okay, like, if you're amazing at what you do, we'll deal with
10:38that.
10:38But that makes you a lesser teammate.
10:41Right.
10:41And I think it's a completely fair opinion for us to think to ourselves, hey, wouldn't it be better if
10:49you just worked with everyone?
10:51Because what I really don't like about this is we're making it sound like, and this is when the Devers
10:59of the world, Durant, suffered from this sometimes, I just want a ball.
11:03Well, unfortunately, that's not the whole picture.
11:07That's not what we're all doing here.
11:09Because if you just want a ball, okay, then we get the $50 million a year back.
11:15Right.
11:15And here's your ball.
11:16Here's a court.
11:17You can play there all day.
11:19Right.
11:19All you want.
11:20But if you want to do this, then there are many different aspects of this.
11:25This is what Steve Kerr spoke to the assembled crowd about at our knockout tournament this year.
11:31Where Steve Kerr was kind enough for no freaking reason to come meet all of you winners out on the
11:39court.
11:40And one of the things he talked about was how he explains to his players, this is the NBA.
11:45This is the whole picture.
11:48And you can either work with it or work against it.
11:51You want to work against it, you're going to be annoyed most of the time.
11:54And you'll probably lose out on some opportunities.
11:57If you want to do it that way, yeah, you're allowed to.
12:00But that's not the best way to do it.
12:02No, especially when something goes bad.
12:04The best way to do it, and all he would have had to do was stand in front of his
12:08locker and say,
12:09not my best moment, got caught up.
12:12There was a misunderstanding.
12:13I thought he was pulling me because of the hamstring.
12:15And, yeah, I regret showing up Jonah Cox like that.
12:18And, you know, I probably didn't handle it in the best way.
12:20But darn it, come Tuesday, I'm going to strive to be better.
12:23And I'm going to use this as a learning moment.
12:26Had he done that, come Monday, we would have talked about it.
12:30But we also would have said, yeah, Rafi, you don't talk a lot, but you just stepped up and you
12:35wore it.
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