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Alex Gibney ('Citizen K'), Lauren Greenfield ('The Kingmaker'), Asif Kapadia ('Diego Maradona'), Todd Douglas Miller ('Apollo 11'), Julia Reichert ('The Factory') and Nanfu Wang ('One Child Nation') join for the Oscar Documentary Roundtable.
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00:04Access is a big part of subject choice as well.
00:08Julia, in your case, you were dealing with this Chinese entrepreneur who gave you extraordinary access,
00:15even when he was going through some rocky times.
00:17Can you talk about navigating that relationship?
00:19I live in Dayton, Ohio, and it's known as a blue collar place that has a great history of invention
00:28and a great history of manufacturing and so forth.
00:31And I think that's partly why the chairman, Chairman Zhao, chose Dayton as where he was going to have his
00:39American factory.
00:40And I think he chose that General Motors plant.
00:44The General Motors plant was where we had made an earlier film,
00:49my partner and I called The Last Truck, closing of a General Motors plant like 11 years ago.
00:54And really, it's kind of a mega story, that film, the closing of the plant, the leaving of the American
01:00capitalists,
01:01and then the coming of a Chinese capitalist to our town to offer jobs to people.
01:07So Access, I think the chairman was proud that he was doing that.
01:13I felt he was bringing jobs to our community.
01:15He was going to produce high quality glass.
01:17It's one thing to get access.
01:20It's another thing to get trust.
01:23Two different things.
01:25And I think the reason we got the trust of the American blue collar workers is because they had all
01:30seen The Last Truck
01:31and they knew that we understood their journey and we had followed it for 10 years almost at that point.
01:38The chairman could see we could make a good film.
01:40He saw it was an Oscar nominee.
01:43I think he thought, these are my guys.
01:45And once the chairman said yes, you know, it's a Chinese company, privately owned, so everybody had to say yes.
01:56So even though there were some uncomfortable meetings around tables like we are right now where people said things that,
02:03you know, they might have been made uncomfortable by,
02:06they had to go, you know, the chairman said yes.
02:09And he never took back that access.
02:17I think it's interesting that several of our films examine power, the nature of power.
02:23Yours very directly.
02:24I mean, your main character says you have to be willing to strike and hit to get power.
02:31I mean, Imelda clearly uses her manipulative abilities to gain power and she brings her own family in.
02:39You see the power of propaganda, which is phenomenal in your film.
02:44And I even in our film in a small little factory, you see the power that those jobs that plant
02:52has over people's lives.
02:54You know, you see the power of what's going on in our country capitalism wise, like you see people's being
03:01beaten down.
03:02You know, workers who made a living wage no longer can do that.
03:06Workers who want a union, the powers that be keep that from happening.
03:18I'd like to hear about the editing room for you.
03:20What was that process like?
03:22I will say we have my partner, Jim Klein, and I edited our first films together.
03:27And then Steve Bognar and I edited those films together, although Steve was definitely the lead editor.
03:33So all the films we have never had an editor.
03:35We were very lucky to have the support of participant media so we could actually hire an editor,
03:42which we would have never been able to do before in that sense.
03:45So we actually were able to hire the editor, whose name is Lindsay Utes, and she is a fabulous editor.
03:51She would sometimes see a scene like there was a worker who gets injured, Bobby Allen,
03:57and he comes back to work after being away for like six weeks with a really bad injury.
04:02And, you know, it's another day and we're there and we're filming him coming back.
04:06And she's sitting at the editing table crying, right?
04:10Because she sees the emotion of the workers welcoming him back, poking at his belly that he had developed.
04:18This scene is not even in the film.
04:20But the working class camaraderie and warmth at bringing him back.
04:24She was sitting in front of the thing crying.
04:27Now, I would have never, ever thought that.
04:30I would have never seen the emotion in that scene.
04:33So Lindsay brought a verite sense and a big tune in to the emotion of the scenes,
04:40which we knew in our film we needed.
04:43I don't think we could have edited that film ourselves the way it is.
04:47I think it was a tremendous collaboration.
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