00:00I then had a call from Downing Street quite late last night.
00:07So, yeah, it's just been up and down.
00:09It's just, you know, the roller coaster of just hope,
00:13not even more than that, you know, is really, really draining.
00:19But, yeah, here we are.
00:21We've now got a little bit of hope that we didn't have before.
00:25Debbie, it sounds exhausting.
00:27Have you heard directly from the Prime Minister?
00:30I heard from the Chief of Staff and she said that he wanted to convey
00:37that he wants to do everything that he can
00:40and has more hope now of finding a resolution to this
00:46to try and keep them in prison.
00:50But for me, you know, it's hope.
00:52But I can't afford to be too hopeful, you know,
00:55because we've been there before.
00:57How much faith do you have following on from that conversation late last night?
01:03You know, you mentioned hope.
01:04How much hope did it give you?
01:09I think the fact that it's actually come from Downing Street,
01:13you know, that's given me...
01:15I've got to try and have some faith in it.
01:18But at the same time, I have to protect my own feelings.
01:23So until it's actually done, you know,
01:26there isn't always going to be an element of, you know,
01:29protecting my mental health, I suppose, and my family.
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