00:00Anyway, we've got some football tonight.
00:02My son sent me a, I sent it to you guys, a tweet from a podcast.
00:07Just curious what you think of this from Legion Hoops, the Twitter account.
00:13The podcast is Club 520.
00:15Norris Cole says getting $50 million and two rings is better than getting $400 million and no rings.
00:26Cocaine's a hell of a drug.
00:28But listen to his explanation.
00:30No, no, no.
00:31Listen to his explanation.
00:33I'm taking $50 million and my rings.
00:36You've got to remember, for me and what I value, $50 million, I can get anything I want.
00:43How many Rolls Royces?
00:45How many mansions can you get?
00:47And you know in the Midwest, a million-dollar crib and a million-dollar crib in Miami or L.A.
00:51is two different lifestyles.
00:54So he's right there.
00:55$50 million, you want to live in Wisconsin, Iowa.
00:59That's like having $400 million in the bank in Miami.
01:03But as a professional athlete, I mean, you're playing for rings.
01:06He's got two.
01:07Many have none.
01:09What do they taste like?
01:14The baby's got to eat, Hawk.
01:17You're saying the rings might not taste like stone crab?
01:20No, man.
01:21That is the – what's that?
01:23So $50 to $400, that's eight times, right?
01:27Mm-hmm.
01:28Eight times more money is worth having two rings?
01:31That sounds crazy to me.
01:33And I've talked about it.
01:34I was a prize fighter.
01:35I played – the reason I tried so hard and worked so hard was to get an NFL check.
01:41So some guys are like, I'm going to be a Super Bowl winner.
01:44I said, man, if these people messing around to give me a couple million dollars, man, that's what I'm –
01:50that's why I woke up in the morning and rode my bike.
01:52I mean, there's a price to put on the experience – I'm not even joking – of going to a
02:01finals run, right, going through the postseason, experiencing the NFL – the NBA finals or Super Bowl week, like experiencing
02:11all that hubbub.
02:13I don't know if the value is $350 million, which is what he – or I guess he would be
02:18suggesting half that because he did it twice.
02:20So what is that, $175 million?
02:23Like, it's got a value, though, to experience something that many people will never experience.
02:29What experience?
02:30Going to media day?
02:32Yeah, all that stuff.
02:33All the hoopla.
02:34How many people know Norris Cole was on that team?
02:37A lot.
02:38Well, that's a valid question.
02:39No, Solana and his brother.
02:42Right, but Norris Cole happened to play on arguably the most polarizing team in NBA history.
02:51Arguably.
02:51There's other teams you could throw up there.
02:53But the big three heat.
02:55And remember, Norris Cole came in, and the following season, Ray Allen joined that team.
02:59They went on the 27-game win streak.
03:02Like, he was a part of the absolute pinnacle of NBA history.
03:09It was Beatlemania.
03:10They called them the heatles for a reason.
03:12It was Beatlemania from city to city.
03:16So that's worth $175 million?
03:20It was for Norris Cole.
03:22He's saying it was.
03:24So he's saying it's for him?
03:26Like, personally, his experience is worth $200 million?
03:29That's goofy.
03:31That's goofy.
03:32I'd rather have Norris Cole's career, where I was a role player on one of the greatest
03:39teams in NBA history, than be somebody, I don't know, we could look it up, but like
03:45Timofey Mozgov, who probably...
03:47Dude, James Harden.
03:48Would you rather have Norris Cole's career with $50 million, or James Harden, no rings,
03:54and I don't know, what has he made, three quarters of a billion?
03:57Yeah, but he...
03:58Harden got half a billion dollars.
03:59That's tough to do, though, Hawk, because James Harden's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
04:03I think anybody would choose a first ballot Hall of Famer.
04:06What Norris Cole is telling you is, I'm wealthier than the top of the top.
04:12I have come out of basketball with more wealth than I know what to do with.
04:15$50 million, I mean, we can sneeze at it.
04:17That is generational wealth.
04:20It is.
04:21$50 million.
04:22He's saying, I've got that, and I've got rings.
04:26And I can't...
04:27There's nothing...
04:28You know, he's not going to buy a private jet.
04:31Maybe James Harden could.
04:32But he's like, I got $50 million, and I've got two rings.
04:36The ring chasing is the argument between LeBron and Jordan.
04:41Nobody's saying...
04:42When we bring...
04:43The joke is, who's the shooter?
04:45Robert Ori.
04:46Doesn't he have six rings?
04:48Mm-hmm.
04:48Nobody puts him in the top level because, oh, Ori and those rings.
04:52No, because he was an ancillary piece of every team he was a part of.
04:56What if Ori could have made another $100 million?
04:58You can have my ring.
05:00I will sell y'all my Outback Bowl ring right now for $20, $30 if you want it.
05:04I don't even want your raggedy-ass Outback Bowl ring.
05:07I understand what you're saying, competitiveness and all that stuff.
05:11To Solana, to your point, Solana, the Heedles are not Norris Cole.
05:18Nobody outside of Miami even knew Norris Cole was on that team.
05:23He can...
05:24It's great for his kids.
05:25He was getting shrapnel for sure.
05:28His daughter...
05:29His daughter was loved at daddy.
05:31Oh, daddy, what is that ring for?
05:32Oh, you know I played back there with LeBron and Bosh and Wade.
05:36It's personal excitement, but it's not worth $100 million.
05:39That's crazy.
05:40What about this one?
05:42Danilo Gallinari.
05:44And truthfully, I don't know if he ended up winning a ring at the back end of his career,
05:48but he was never a star on a title winner, right?
05:53Like, he wasn't the dude.
05:54He made...
05:55I just looked it up.
05:55He made over $200 million.
05:59But let's just say Danilo Gallinari never won a ring, right?
06:04Would you rather have Danilo's career?
06:07You made over $200 million, but you never played playoff NBA Finals basketball.
06:13You never got to experience that.
06:15Or would you rather be Norris Cole, who...
06:17Crowder, I know what you're saying, like, nobody remembers Norris Cole, but Norris Cole
06:21was a role player on those two teams, and he was a big role player for those two teams
06:27coming off the bench and win two rings and only have made whatever, $50, $60 million.
06:31He got rings and money.
06:34In other words, is there a point, Crowder, where you...
06:37What if I told you it was two rings, $50 million, or no rings, $60 million?
06:43$60 million.
06:44Really?
06:45What do the rings taste like for my great-grandchildren?
06:49But what can you do with $60 million that you can't do with $50 million?
06:51$10 more million worth of something.
06:54Y'all know my opinion on this.
06:56Yes, I want checks.
07:00And this might be different.
07:01So do I.
07:02People were chasing...
07:03People chase rings.
07:04I never was chasing championships.
07:06I was chasing financial stability.
07:11I get it.
07:12It's just interesting.
07:13I think it's refreshing to hear Norris Cole say that, and I think it's an interesting argument.
07:19It's a lie.
07:20Well, is it a lie, though, when you've got $50 million in the bank, you think he's sitting
07:26there going, man, I wish I had another $50 million?
07:30Yes, Hulk.
07:32He's in his 30s with $50 million in the bank?
07:35I don't know what you have invested, but what if it was doubled?
07:39No, no, no.
07:39I'm not saying I wouldn't want more money, but do I sit here and go, man, I wish that
07:46I had more money and never had a radio show?
07:50Like, I don't know.
07:50There's a price to be said for happiness and success.
07:54Yeah.
07:55And happiness is me having a $10 million yacht and fishing all day.
07:59But my career...
08:00You can have that with Norris Cole's money.
08:03But my yacht could have been bigger.
08:06No one knows who Norris Cole is.
08:09That's a different topic.
08:11Totally different topic.
08:12He, like, just sitting on that ring.
08:14Let's say in 08, the Ravens didn't whoop our ass, and we went on and won the Super Bowl
08:19in 2008.
08:20That's not changing my life.
08:22But it's not about your life.
08:24It's about your experience.
08:26It's not who knows you and who remembers you.
08:29It's what you've experienced in your life.
08:31Hulk, experience of playing four more football games?
08:35Well, you're diminishing what it means to be on the path to a Super Bowl and what all
08:39that entails.
08:41What does it mean?
08:41You're playing for another month of football.
08:44I know the game's on the line and you do a lot more media.
08:47Admittedly, you may not be the best person to ask about this.
08:49You have as much experience as I do in that.
08:51Like, what?
08:52But, no.
08:54No, we got to take a...
08:55We got to get a headline.
08:56What is it?
08:57I'll ask Gino.
08:58We'll ask Gino.
08:59Let's ask Gino in the next segment.
09:00We'll ask Gino in the next segment.
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