00:01Tunes in the locker room.
00:02Ask Scott Harris.
00:04Okay.
00:05Scoob will start on Friday night.
00:07Standing ovation as he left the mound in the 8th inning.
00:10It was a beautiful start.
00:11Yep, and then they lost Saturday and Sunday.
00:14Here's your sign.
00:16Had a chance to make up some ground against a bad team.
00:18Couldn't do it.
00:19No Bobby Witt.
00:20No Mike Cal Garcia.
00:21One of the worst pitching staffs in all of baseball.
00:24Okay.
00:25Well, here's your sign.
00:26We'll get to Kirby Joseph.
00:287-35.
00:29What's going on with his knee?
00:31Lions have camp beginning tomorrow with the vets reporting.
00:35We brought up this LeBron thing.
00:36He's to the east now.
00:38LeBron's with the 76ers.
00:40And what does this mean for the Pistons, right?
00:42Well, I pulled up the odds for teams to win the east.
00:46The Knicks, Sixers, Celtics, and Raptors all have better odds than the Pistons.
00:51And you could argue the Cavs, who beat us in the postseason, should be higher.
00:54And the Pacers, who won the east with a healthy Halliburton,
00:58should also be ahead of the Pistons.
01:00So very quickly, you start to add up four, five, six teams that could be ahead of us.
01:06And don't discount Orlando with a healthy season.
01:10So then this makes the offseason awful.
01:12There's been an awful offseason.
01:14You can like individual moves, but in totality, other teams make moves too.
01:19And if you're losing ground, it's bad.
01:21If you go from one to five, you go from one to six, I don't think anybody's going to sit
01:28there and say,
01:28well, if you don't get the number one seed, but you're two or three, like, okay.
01:33But how do you stack up in the postseason?
01:35How are you going to take one of the great young players in the NBA and build off of last
01:40season and chase a championship?
01:42This hasn't been an offseason to chase a championship.
01:44It's about what you can do in the postseason as well.
01:47And if you believe Durin is going to have another, hey, third team, all NBA type of regular season.
01:53But when you get into the postseason, he disappears.
01:55Right.
01:55What have you done to make up for that loss of production?
01:59You haven't.
02:01Text coming in.
02:04We need to know if Mr. Margins even tried for Jalen Brown.
02:07If he did, what was the offer?
02:08DC and Royal Oak.
02:10Philly, Boston, New York, Cleveland, Orlando, Atlanta, Miami, and Indiana.
02:14We are possibly eighth, but I would say sixth for sure.
02:19Maybe those teams are not negotiating with Detroit.
02:21Maybe Boston didn't want Durin.
02:23Maybe Braun wanted to go to Philly and wouldn't have come to Detroit.
02:27Matt, at work.
02:28Sure.
02:28Those are possibilities.
02:30Costa, your criticism of Landon is pathetic.
02:32Are we aware of where he's taken his team from in his short tenure?
02:35I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're talking out of your ass.
02:39He knows what he's doing.
02:42Well, we have to trust that he knows what he's doing.
02:44But on the surface, we've seen other teams get markedly better with stars.
02:49Right.
02:52And who's the star that Detroit added?
02:55They didn't.
02:56And I think there were two clear goals that he articulated when the season ended.
02:59Which was shooting and playmaking.
03:03Yeah.
03:04They added some shooting.
03:05They have not added any noticeable on-ball playmaking.
03:09And I'm not counting a rookie out of Stanford.
03:11No.
03:12So, by his own acknowledgement, the offseason hasn't been enough.
03:16The other thing that he said was, we know we have optionality before the Durin and Assar deals kick in.
03:22And that will go away in the coming year here.
03:28I'm just holding him to what we're all seeing and what he's saying.
03:32I also am holding out hope that he's not done.
03:37I think most likely, this is the team that they're going to start the season with.
03:44But, I mean, they could still be a blockbuster trade.
03:48I would love to see it.
03:49Especially if they can't come to terms with Durin and this starts to get really nasty.
03:54Now, the Pistons hold all the leverage in that.
03:56Yep.
03:57And there are other teams that don't necessarily have the room with whatever type of monies that they're working with
04:04to pay Durin what he wants to be paid.
04:08The more this goes on.
04:09Tom, did you have it in your prep that he wants the max?
04:11Durin wants the max?
04:12There was a report last Friday.
04:15He wants 5 and 287.
04:17This is really sad what's happening.
04:18You have a 22-year-old who's being told the wrong things.
04:21And I know 22 is an adult and he's a grown man and can do what he wants.
04:25But at 22 years old, I think he's getting awful advice.
04:28His agent doesn't rep very many NBA players.
04:31I feel like he's getting real bad advice here.
04:34There's no world where you're a max player, dude.
04:36I'm sorry.
04:37There was one exec off the record to another story over Friday or the weekend that said they should kind
04:44of give him what they offered Reeves.
04:46Maybe throw an extra 5 to 10 on it.
04:48Yeah, as soon as he becomes the player Reeves's.
04:50So 4 and 190.
04:52Or 5 and 190, excuse me.
04:54Would you be comfortable with that?
04:55No.
04:57Because you're talking nearly 40 million a year.
04:59He's not the second highest paid player on a title team.
05:02Yeah, I just think it's you're 22.
05:03You have a great regular season.
05:05Everybody in your life tells you how big, strong, and talented you are.
05:08Look at you.
05:09Max.
05:09You're a max player.
05:10You're all NBA.
05:11You're a max player, dude.
05:12They need you.
05:13They need you.
05:14Make them pay.
05:15Hold out.
05:16Wait till the season starts.
05:17Threaten to sign the qualifying offer.
05:19You're a max player, dude.
05:20And when these people are telling you things in your life and you start to believe them, that's how we
05:24end up where we're at.
05:25Are we headed for a stare down?
05:27Is this like an Iserman Larkin stare down?
05:29Nobody's going to lose their job over this.
05:32I mean, Greg's gesturing this is a stare down already.
05:35No, but I mean, a stare down gets serious when we're talking September 15th.
05:40Is he seriously going to take the qualifying offer?
05:43Because that's 20 million to 25 million.
05:46He's never going to get back.
05:47Right.
05:48That gets uncomfortable for the Pistons.
05:50If he signs a qualifying offer, it means that he's throwing away tens of millions of dollars.
05:56And it also means the Pistons need to start planning for an exit strategy.
05:59He's betting on himself.
06:00Right.
06:00Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say.
06:01He is betting on himself that he's going to have another regular season like he did last year and follow
06:07it up with a postseason.
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