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Hoch, Solana, and Zach Gelb debate the emotions of LeBron James choosing the Philadelphia 76ers over the Miami Heat. While it is disappointing, landing Giannis Antetokounmpo earlier this offseason makes the summer far from loss.
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00:00My contention would be if he went to Cleveland, there are no expectations.
00:06Everybody knows that that team is not particularly on the level of other good
00:10teams in the East, and it's a fitting homecoming for someone who has made so
00:17much of their career and life about Cleveland.
00:21If he goes to Miami, excellent team, but also is the comfort food of
00:29returning for one more go round with a fan base who was so supportive of me
00:34for four seasons and kind of putting a proper bookend on his tenure with the
00:42heat that may not have ended as great as he wanted it to or the heat wanted it
00:46to.
00:47And if he goes to Golden State, it's obviously not to win a championship.
00:52It's to entertain the basketball world.
00:55I'm running out of time.
00:56So Steph, we're going to play one season together.
00:59We're going to have as much fun as we can be as competitive as we can going to
01:03Philadelphia with no ties, no familiarity.
01:09He has to come out of there with a championship.
01:11No, I don't think it's the riskiest.
01:15I actually think it's the most respectable because he could have gone to Cleveland.
01:18It would have been safe.
01:19It was nostalgic.
01:20He could have gone back to Miami and yeah, they would have been a championship
01:24contender, but I think people would rank like we're still are the Miami heat going to Golden
01:29State.
01:30That would just be kind of gutless and and it wouldn't really make sense, but we've seen
01:34before with LeBron.
01:36You never know what this guy's going to do once he hits free agency.
01:40Maybe it wasn't stunning.
01:41He went to Miami the first time he did, but the way he did it was stunning when he left
01:45to go back to Cleveland.
01:46I didn't expect that when he went to LA.
01:49It wasn't to win a championship.
01:50He was able to get one.
01:52So this is what this guy does and it's funny eight years ago when he went to LA people thought
01:56he wasn't going to win a championship and it was a movie to set up life after basketball,
02:00but now at the age of 41 getting ready to play his 24th season.
02:03It should only be about winning another championship and he went to the place that out of the possible
02:08suitors had the best roster and took a nothing contract to try to go win a championship.
02:15So yes, Hawk, it is high stakes and big expectations, but if he doesn't win in Philadelphia, he's
02:21still the second greatest player of all time.
02:23He has to win in Philadelphia or this is a weird moment at the end of his unbelievable
02:29career.
02:30But if he went to Miami, wouldn't he have said this was the place that gave me the best
02:34chance to win a championship and then it's yeah, go win a championship.
02:37But he's got ties here already and he's got two championships here.
02:41When it's all said and done, you're going to be able if he doesn't win a championship
02:46to look at LeBron and say, what was he doing in Cleveland that last couple of years made
02:50no sense.
02:52I do think this move comes with the most pressure to win than any of the other ones.
02:58Maybe Gelb, you're right.
02:59It's the right move from the standpoint of he wants to compete.
03:03By the way, as somebody who has for years been saying LeBron's got to get out of LA, he's
03:08got to maximize the final couple seasons of his career and go hunt for titles because
03:13I believe, like you said, Hawk, earlier in the show, that the difference between him
03:17and Jordan will always be the six to four rings right now.
03:21But this is the most pressure to win because he's going to a situation with the best roster
03:28and he also has an opportunity to become the first player in the history of the league
03:33to win a title with four different organizations, which is something that I think LeBron weighed
03:39in this decision.
03:40So to me, it's the most pressure to win.
03:44He goes to Cleveland.
03:45He doesn't have to win for it to be a success.
03:47He comes to Miami.
03:48There's pressure to win with Giannis and with Bam and it's a new quote unquote big three.
03:52There's certainly pressure, but he delivered here already.
03:56In Philly, he hasn't delivered anything.
03:59And kind of to the token to what Tobin was saying, the Sixers haven't been out of the
04:05second round, what, since the last time they won a title in 50 years ago?
04:11Well, when they got to the finals.
04:14Oh, no, they got to the Western Conference finals many years ago, like 2008 or something
04:22like that.
04:22No, you're right in the, in, in, in 2001 with AI, when they lost, when they got to
04:27the, since the last time that, that they were in the finals, they haven't been out of the
04:32second round, especially since they started the process.
04:35If he doesn't get out of the second round in year one, it's going to be a much bigger
04:40failure considered a much bigger failure than had he lost in the first or second round
04:45in Miami or in Cleveland.
04:48I think.
04:50You're right.
04:51It's a 3-0-5.
04:53Dale.
04:53Dale.
04:54Dale.
04:54God bless you.
04:55Dale.
04:58Dale.
04:59Thank you, Jimmy.
05:00You're welcome.
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05:06as family.
05:07I think you're right, Solana.
05:08It's not the riskiest path.
05:11It's the path with the most pressure, though.
05:14And there's a difference between the two.
05:17Sure.
05:18Also, I got to call a spade a spade here.
05:21Can we get the true thoughts of Solana?
05:24Like you and Tobin, you guys are pretending it's like you're not like an abused person
05:29and everything's all right and everything's great.
05:31You guys are hurt today.
05:32I don't get why you guys can't say that.
05:34I'm going to tell you before Solana even tells you, you don't understand what it feels
05:40like to have landed Giannis this offseason.
05:44This is fine.
05:45This is the waiter bringing you the cake you've been waiting for because you love the frosting
05:52and forgetting the cherry.
05:54And you go, eh, I love this cake.
05:57I got to push back on that.
05:59Would have been nice.
06:00Would have been nice.
06:01But here's why I got to push back on it.
06:04Giannis gets traded to the heat.
06:05I go, Hawk, why don't you be a guest on your own show?
06:08LeBron doesn't come to the heat.
06:10You get an appetite on an off day to come on in and host.
06:13It's because you're pissed.
06:14There's a big, no, no, no.
06:16There's a big difference.
06:17I was at 39,000 feet.
06:19Oh, don't give me facts.
06:21Lying to Zurich.
06:22You wanted me on my first day in Zurich to carve out four hours to talk about Giannis
06:28coming to the heat when I was going to have the next five seasons to talk about Giannis
06:33being with the heat.
06:34Today, I was getting ready to leave for Weston to have a lot, have lunch with a friend of
06:40mine in Weston, and I was like, well, this could be the easiest four hours of work that
06:45I ever do, and I don't have to drive to Weston.
06:48By the way, I did text Ira Winderman, who's in Sweden.
06:54Oh, is he really?
06:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:56I said, hey, publish your stories.
06:58He was telling us before he left.
07:00He has all the stories published.
07:02LeBron leaves the heat at the altar.
07:04LeBron comes back to the heat.
07:06LeBron returns to the Cavs.
07:08We had even joked about when the heat published that press conference YouTube link, he had
07:15said to me, the one big mistake there, because everyone gets prepared for stuff, he goes,
07:20the one big mistake there is that they hit publish, and I won't make that mistake.
07:25But Ira, I texted him when it happened, published the story, and he responded, I just did, literally
07:34called it in on my phone from a ferry in the harbor at Stockholm, and then I did tweet
07:41him, text him later on this afternoon.
07:43I said, do you think you could get special dispensation from Sherry, his wife, to jump
07:48on with us this afternoon?
07:50And he said, no, she is holding firm.
07:53Sorry.
07:55Hmm.
07:56Ira whipped.
07:57Yeah.
07:58That's a big takeaway there, but here's the one thing, and I get it, right?
08:01He's going on a vacation.
08:02The drama was taking forever to make this decision.
08:05You got to go on your vacation.
08:07I think you eliminate the human emotion out of this, because if I would have said to you
08:12three days ago, LeBron goes to Philadelphia, it's like, oh, yeah, I didn't see that one
08:15coming.
08:16But when it actually hits the fan today, my emotions change from 1130 to what it is now,
08:23because I actually, my takeaway right now, and it's not good for the heat, it's, you
08:28know, for WQM, yeah, sure, we still have Giannis Antetokounmpo is.
08:32Wait, wait, wait, wait, but don't do that so flippantly, hey, we still have.
08:36You do.
08:36No, no, no, no.
08:36You do.
08:37That's right.
08:38But it's a little more than, hey, we still have Giannis, like, oh, consolation prize.
08:43He's the bigger prize.
08:45He is.
08:46But you could still get to, as someone that was their parent's favorite child, you could get
08:51multiple gifts, right, for Hanukkah or multiple gifts for Christmas.
08:55It's not just one gift.
08:57Yes, you got the gift.
08:59You got the main gift on your list.
09:01But if you ask for four gifts and you only get one, you're like, oh, I thought I was going
09:06to get two or three, and I didn't.
09:07But I respect what LeBron did, because I've been sitting here saying, you should only play
09:14if you think you go win a championship.
09:16And he took $4 million a year or three point whatever.
09:19I can't do math.
09:21And he said, I'm going to go to a team that I think is the best to go win a
09:26championship.
09:26And that's respectable to me.
09:28Do you think, Gelby, that there are shirts all ready for sale on the Ocean City boardwalk
09:35with LeBron and the Sixers?
09:38Funny you say that.
09:39I did see John Clark from NBC Sports Philadelphia.
09:41I just saw that.
09:42That's why I was thinking of that.
09:43Who's down at the shore.
09:44Sixers fans are going wild.
09:46I do think it's very different, though.
09:48I see all these videos of Sixers fans walking out of Wawa's.
09:52I think it's a little bit different if you go to Publix today, seeing what that reaction
09:55is.
09:56They have some pub subs, which are absolutely delicious.
09:58But I don't think you're seeing very happy Miami Heat fans out of Publix.
10:03What a day, man.
10:04What a day.
10:06Yeah, I'm not upset.
10:08I'm not upset.
10:08I do wonder what the reaction is, though, in Cleveland, though.
10:12Oh, furious.
10:13You think Cleveland is...
10:14You think they're furious again, like when he came to Miami?
10:18No, not to that level, because that was just public humiliation on a national stage.
10:23Because of the way he did it.
10:24That was, I'm going to cheat on you, and then I'm going to pretend like we're going to get
10:29married and then expose the person I'm cheating with and then grab them and then run to a better
10:34destination.
10:34That's what that was.
10:36This was, I'm going to tease you.
10:39I'm going to pretend like I'm going home from the bar with you.
10:43And right after you make me buy four or five drinks for the hot gal, at the end of the
10:48night, she goes, eh, not really feeling that well.
10:50I'm going home.
10:51That's what LeBron did to them with an X that they were just trying to use him for a little
10:55dinero.
10:56Here's the update from ESPN Cleveland, their radio station up in Ohio.
11:02Two free agent names to watch now that the Cavs are not getting LeBron, Jonathan Kaminga
11:07and Mario Hazonia.
11:11But I still have to call cap on Solana's emotions because, Hawk, when you were out, I did two
11:18weeks of shows with Solana, and all it was was LeBron, LeBron, LeBron.
11:23Solana did that little look that he gives.
11:25Oh, he's coming back.
11:26Oh, yeah.
11:26Here we go, LeBron.
11:28Gelb and Crowder.
11:29I'm ready to go after you guys when the heat get LeBron.
11:32And today he's like, eh, no big deal.
11:34Not the end of the world.
11:35I think that's fraudulent by Solana.
11:37I do.
11:38All right.
11:38Let's put you on truth serum, Solana.
11:40But I don't want to hear from Solana right now at 312 in the afternoon.
11:47I want to hear from Solana at 1130 this morning when you first saw the Shams tweet.
11:54Is that how you learned about it?
11:56My brother called me, and I pick up the phone, and I say, what up?
12:02He's like, well, I guess we're not getting LeBron.
12:05And I said, why?
12:06What would you see?
12:07What now?
12:08He said, Shams just tweeted.
12:10He's going to Philly.
12:11And I said, get the F out of here.
12:13No, he didn't.
12:13He said, dude, I swear.
12:15So I put him on speaker, and I go to Twitter, and there it is.
12:19And I have 18 messages that I haven't read yet.
12:23LeBron James is going to Philly.
12:26And I said, wow, that kind of sucks.
12:28And he's like, yeah.
12:29Hey, let me ask you, by the way.
12:32And he starts asking me.
12:33I don't even know what my brother's asking me.
12:34I just hung up on him.
12:37Because you were pissed.
12:38We're going to have a conversation about what right now?
12:42LeBron's not coming here.
12:43I don't want to have a conversation about it.
12:44I don't even know what he was talking about.
12:46I hung up on my brother.
12:47And then, yeah, I posted a little video saying I never wanted him.
12:51Had no interest in the old geezer.
12:53And you move forward, Gelb.
12:55Here's the thing.
12:56You know, in Miami, we're used to winning.
12:58We're used to it.
12:59Not like you New Yorkers.
13:00You got Giannis already, baby.
13:02We won.
13:03This offseason is golden.
13:05You paired Giannis onto the Kumpo and Bam out of Bayou together in Miami.
13:10I'm telling you, as much as I love Solana,
13:13and I understand you guys got a wonderful player in Giannis onto the Kumpo.
13:18If they got LeBron, Solana would have been going after everybody.
13:25Yeah, but those two.
13:26Going nuts.
13:27We're not seeing the true meltdown.
13:28I want to see the meltdown.
13:30They're not mutually exclusive.
13:33It's not, hey, you either would have been thrilled or you wouldn't have cared.
13:38We would have been thrilled to get LeBron.
13:41We talked about it for the last couple of weeks.
13:43Of course, we were excited.
13:44But the fact that we didn't get him is not heartbreaking.
13:50Now, if we didn't get Giannis this offseason,
13:54and we thought LeBron was going to end up being our saving grace,
13:59then you got a whole different show on your hands
14:01and a whole different set of emotions.
14:03But we got Giannis.
14:04You're not even in the conversation without Giannis onto the Kumpo for LeBron James.
14:10And you're seeing that, I don't know if it was Barry Jackson who pointed this out,
14:14but it was so spot on where he said,
14:16clearly LeBron values Jalen Brown a lot more than the Boston Celtics did
14:24and a lot of other teams who were not willing to trade for Jalen Brown do.
14:30And we saw from Shams that the Sixers weren't even on the table for LeBron James
14:35until they traded for Jalen Brown.
14:38So, Gelb, am I a little disappointed?
14:40Yes.
14:40For sure, I think all Heat fans are a little disappointed.
14:42No, he's not.
14:43Who wouldn't be disappointed if you had a chance to get LeBron?
14:46You don't get him, but that doesn't mean you're furious.
14:48He hung up on his own brother.
14:50We call that rage quitting.
14:51And then he gets on the air and he's like,
14:53Yeah, I don't care.
14:55We ain't get LeBron.
14:56We're going to go get the Marthe Rosen.
14:59It's going to be fine.
15:00And Clay Thompson's going to be coming here.
15:01But he is going to be fine.
15:03Oh, Bradley Beal.
15:04Like, it is going to be fine.
15:06I think I told you earlier this week,
15:08I think the Heat have a better roster than the Knicks.
15:10And that was before LeBron was here.
15:12You guys tell me a lot of wrong things on this show.
15:13Let's be real.
15:14Yeah, I agree with that take, Hawk, 100%.
15:17I'm also so much higher on this Heat team,
15:19even without LeBron James, prior to him making his decision.
15:22I'm a lot higher on this Heat team right now,
15:25without the Mar, without Bradley Beal,
15:27without the Clay Thompson,
15:29just who they have right now,
15:31than most people are outside of Miami.
15:33Because I think you put Giannis and Bam on the floor together
15:37with Andrew Wiggins and Davion Mitchell,
15:40those four,
15:41you're going to have the best defensive team in the NBA
15:44with the best defensive-minded coach in the NBA.
15:47And that's going to be a tough team to go up against
15:50in the NBA regular season.
15:52And come playoff time,
15:53that's going to be a tough team to try to go through
15:56in a best-of-seven series.
15:58And am I a little disappointed
16:00because I thought LeBron takes the Heat to another level?
16:02For sure.
16:03I'm not going to backtrack.
16:04I thought the fit was great.
16:05I think Miami's biggest flaw right now
16:07is another creator,
16:08another playmaker,
16:09and somebody late in games
16:11who can take over and win you a game.
16:13That's LeBron James.
16:15Perfectly.
16:15There's no doubt about it.
16:16He makes the team better.
16:17But I'm not going to sit here
16:19and pretend like Heat fans have to be in shambles today
16:21because LeBron James chose the Philadelphia 76ers
16:24when I think our team is really good.
16:26I think the Heat are going to compete next season.
16:29And you got Giannis Antetokounmpo.
16:32I had to struggle with Tyler Hero,
16:33Kalil Ware,
16:34and for the last three years,
16:36going through the playing tournament.
16:38That's behind you now with Giannis.
16:40I should just say the defense rests
16:41because you just made my point.
16:43You just said the Heat are going to be
16:45a tough team in the postseason.
16:47The Heat are a good team.
16:49If they got LeBron today, Solana,
16:51you're saying,
16:52they're winning the championship.
16:53They're going to the NBA finals.
16:55You're not doing that today.
16:56Oh, stop it.
16:57He's a defensive liability at this point.
16:59I mean, look at the defenders they have out there.
17:01LeBron out there is a defensive liability.
17:03I'm talking about it on the show.
17:05You're talking about 41-year-old Gubb?
17:08I mean, do you know Ball?
17:09Yeah, because old people don't go to Florida ever.
17:12Never, never happened.
17:13No, the reason,
17:14understand he was a good basketball fit down here
17:16and probably is one of the pieces that we needed,
17:18but he's not, I don't think,
17:20the difference between them having success
17:22in the postseason or not.
17:24That's how good I think this team is.
17:26What we wanted, in my opinion, was the party.
17:31We had a four-year party with LeBron James.
17:34I was saying this to Crowder and Solana this week.
17:37Do you know how rare it is to have an unbelievable,
17:41maybe the most memorable era of sports in your lifetime
17:45and then get a chance to replicate it
17:47after you thought it was over forever?
17:51That's what we were excited about.
17:53And by the way, our party's still going on.
17:57I lived it.
17:58Pat's won three Super Bowls in four years,
18:00won a decade without winning,
18:01and then won three more championships.
18:02Yeah, but you didn't have any fun personalities on that team.
18:05Like, we had the big three.
18:06You were doing the Harlem shake.
18:07You got Bill Belichick hemming and hawing.
18:10I mean, Tom Brady wouldn't say two words back then.
18:14I mean, there were no personnel.
18:16There was no fun surrounding that Patriots run.
18:20Gronk?
18:20Gronk didn't even know where he was.
18:22They cheated the entire time.
18:24They're filming opposite sidelines.
18:25They're deflating footballs to make it easier
18:27for old man Brady to throw on the sidelines.
18:29I was going to bring up Fernandez,
18:31but then you said fun times.
18:32I just thought you were talking about controversy, honestly.
18:35I was like, there's a lot of off-the-field stuff
18:37if we really want to go down this rabbit hole.
18:39I'm not disappointed.
18:41Excuse me.
18:41I'm not mad.
18:42I'm not outraged at LeBron.
18:44I am a little disappointed.
18:46I'm more shocked than anything about Philly.
18:49I could have seen Cleveland today.
18:52I could have seen Golden State today.
18:54I never thought LeBron James would stay in the East
18:57and go to a team he hasn't played for,
19:00especially a team like Philly.
19:02Philly, when you think of structure,
19:05when you think of organizational success,
19:09Philly doesn't check any of those boxes.
19:11Their roster is great.
19:12I'm not taking away from their roster.
19:13They got JB this offseason.
19:15They traded Paul George for Jalen Brown and LeBron James.
19:18They deserve all the credit in the world,
19:19but I never saw him going to a team
19:22he hadn't played for yet,
19:24unless it was with Steph Curry,
19:26especially for a team that there's a lot of question marks
19:29like Philly, and he's never going to be a Philly guy.
19:32So that, to me, is why I'm shocked.
19:35But you do have a better infrastructure right now in Philly
19:39than they've ever had in a long time.
19:42You got a championship coach in Nick Nurse.
19:44I'm talking about from LeBron's perspective.
19:46You got Bob Myers, who's a part of that ownership group
19:49with the role that he plays with Harris and Blitzer.
19:52And then you have Mike Gansey,
19:55who also was the runner-up in Ohio for Mr. Basketball.
20:01To who? LeBron James.
20:03I think that it felt like home in a weird way
20:07because he's never played there yet,
20:09where Cleveland is home,
20:10and then the Heat were also his home for a while as well.
20:13But here's the thing.
20:14I don't think it felt like home.
20:16Maybe he has friends there,
20:18and maybe it's comfortable,
20:19more comfortable than we thought.
20:21Here's the thing.
20:22We only had to go off of what we thought was important to him.
20:28And what we kept hearing was,
20:30this is a family decision.
20:32Where does my family want to be?
20:34I can guarantee you there was no one in his family
20:38that voted for Philadelphia as their city of residence.
20:42I can guarantee you.
20:43They don't have any ties there.
20:45What we were led to believe wasn't true.
20:48Again, was it their fault that they lied to us,
20:51or did they never say that?
20:53And we created it.
20:54When I say we, I mean the media.
20:55So whatever it was,
20:58we were under the impression that the parameters of the decision
21:03had to do with happiness and family.
21:06And that's why the Philadelphia decision becomes so shocking is because it
21:10doesn't check any box other than being closest to winning a championship.
21:15And had we been told that was going to be the most important thing,
21:20I think everybody kind of would have lined up behind that.
21:23Do you know what today is, by the way?
21:26National Tequila Day.
21:27It is.
21:28I'm going to tell you what happens here.
21:30Solana is processing right now.
21:33Maybe not the best choice of words,
21:34but he's in denial right now at about 8.15 tonight.
21:39He's going to sit down,
21:40pour a nice thick glass of tequila,
21:43and he's going to say,
21:45oh, truck.
21:46And he's going to let out a hellacious scream
21:48because it's going to finally hit him at some point tonight.
21:50And I'm going to be like the boogeyman for Solana
21:53because it's going to happen.
21:54And he's going to be like,
21:55that mother bleeper,
21:56that New York jackass and Zach Gelb,
21:59that bloviating pig is absolutely right.
22:02There will be a moment tonight where Solana will crash out
22:04and you should go on Instagram Live.
22:05I think it'd be highly entertaining.
22:06You could not be more wrong, Gelb.
22:09You just could not be more wrong.
22:11I'm a truth teller when it comes to the heat
22:13because I wear my emotions on a sleeve.
22:15I am.
22:16You could not be more wrong.
22:19This is not hitting us like a ton of bricks,
22:22like you think it is.
22:23Just like I was told that Tua was going to be
22:25a great quarterback for this organization.
22:27Just like I was told that Giannis was never going to come here
22:30when we were in studio.
22:32And Solana and I were annoyed with Giannis.
22:34Those are predictions when it comes to sports.
22:37You're talking about emotion.
22:39You're saying heat fans feel so betrayed
22:44and let down by LeBron.
22:45And I'm telling you, we don't.
22:47We would have loved for him to play here.
22:50It's not going to.
22:51When he went from Miami to Cleveland,
22:54I couldn't clear my head.
22:56I had a tough time doing the show.
23:00And this is nothing like that.
23:02I never said it was that.
23:03Nothing.
23:04Oh, I never said it was that.
23:05It's pain.
23:06But it's nothing like that.
23:07It's not the worst pain that you've ever had.
23:08But it's painful.
23:10There's pain here.
23:11Solana was like a sad puppy dog today.
23:13He can't even have a good poker face here.
23:16I haven't seen the guy crack a smile once during this show.
23:19You're creating your own narrative that's not true.
23:21And he keeps refuting everything you're saying.
23:24And then you just keep saying, you're a liar.
23:26And I see it on your face, which is a very disingenuous way to argue anything.
23:30Because you can argue anything that way.
23:32I've had many people in my life try to tell me that everything's all right.
23:36Oh, everything's good.
23:37And I go, are you really good?
23:39And you know that they're lying to you.
23:41I'm not saying that this is an everlasting pain and sorrow.
23:44It shouldn't be that he'd had a really good offseason getting on to the Kumpo.
23:47They got the biggest fish that they needed to get.
23:49But today, your heart was played with for the last two weeks.
23:53You both thought he was coming here.
23:56And right now, there is disappointment for the rejection.
24:00That's what it is.
24:01There is disappointment with the rejection that has anger.
24:04I'm more disappointed that Dame Lillard didn't end up here than I am in LeBron not ending up here.
24:11For sure.
24:11You want to see a crash out, Gelb?
24:13Go look up that video where we find out live on the air, Damien Lillard was getting traded to Milwaukee.
24:19I mean, you want to see me cry?
24:22That's the video right there.
24:23I couldn't even do the show anymore.
24:25I was so sick to my stomach.
24:27I was just saying, men don't lie to men.
24:29And I feel like I'm getting lied to today.
24:32I feel like I'm getting lied to by all you guys.
24:35Let's get headlines real quick.
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