00:00I'm Kylie.
00:01And I'm Jan.
00:02My mom always hated everyone that I had a relationship with.
00:06Jan is not a serious type.
00:09He might hurt my Kylie.
00:11He'd just play around.
00:12He might take advantage of Kylie's goodness.
00:15Kylie's mom didn't like me when we first started dating.
00:18I'm very nervous what she has to say.
00:21So what did you think when I told you about Jan?
00:24I'm not approved for that.
00:26So me and Jan met through a dating app.
00:30I actually really liked him immediately when I saw his photos.
00:34I told my friend,
00:35I will make this my boyfriend.
00:38Period.
00:39Like I manifested it.
00:40It was in our profiles that we are both friends.
00:43So yeah.
00:45Luckily I read and she read and we both like each other regardless.
00:50First, my mom was very hesitant.
00:54My mom Irene is coming over today.
00:59She's going to tell us everything that she feels about the relationship.
01:04She will be very honest and she won't hold back.
01:09Hi.
01:09John and Kylie, of course they are lovers.
01:13But I'm a little bit doubtful.
01:16My mom always hated everyone that I had a relationship with.
01:21So...
01:22For me, John is not a serious type.
01:29And he might hurt my Kylie.
01:32Kylie's mom didn't like me when we first started dating.
01:36I'm very nervous what she has to say.
01:38John might take advantage.
01:41Kylie's the breadwinner.
01:42He might take advantage of Kylie's goodness.
01:46I probably am going to talk to John and tell him that...
01:51I will hurt my Kylie and make sure that you love my Kylie because I love my daughter.
01:56I think my mom has raised her concerns about if John really loves me genuinely.
02:04And if John's intentions for me are real.
02:10I feel like I am old enough to really follow my instincts and follow my God.
02:16Wow!
02:18That's so good.
02:20Myself and I.
02:22So what did you think when I told you about John?
02:25I'm not approved for that.
02:27At first.
02:28At first.
02:29Yeah, at first.
02:30I just don't like it.
02:32And I'm not ready yet.
02:34Yeah.
02:34Because during that time, you were very, very busy with your career.
02:37I don't know.
02:38For me, he is the type of guy that you just play around.
02:44Not serious for that kind of relationship.
02:47The first time that I introduced John in social media,
02:50we told the world as well that we're dating and that we're both trans.
02:56Since I started dating John,
02:58I started getting a lot of like DMs
03:02telling me I look ugly and stuff.
03:05And like why...
03:06Why would John go for me?
03:09You're still a man and a woman in love.
03:12You're just role-switching.
03:14You'll procreate the same way normal people do.
03:17And your point is...
03:20I mean, yeah.
03:21We are a man and a woman.
03:22No switching happening here.
03:24If you are gender confused,
03:26turn to Jesus and he will heal you.
03:29God created only two genders.
03:31No in-betweens.
03:32Do not be deceived.
03:34We're fine as it is.
03:36I think we're cool.
03:37When I look at Kylie,
03:39she's the most beautiful girl that I dated.
03:42All of my exes, I don't really care.
03:44We just laughed through all of the judgments that we received.
03:49We're really secure as trans people.
03:52We're just in our own world.
03:55Why are you people hating on us?
03:57We just love each other.
03:59Aren't you guys happy with your life that you have to keep on putting us down?
04:03Why do you decide to take a trans man instead of a cis man?
04:12I feel like he understands me more.
04:14I mean, the way that I live my life now.
04:17But I think he really supports what I do, what I envision in my life.
04:22Early on, back in kindergarten,
04:24I was always hanging out with the girls, playing with the girls, playing with the dolls.
04:31I started medically transitioning September 2020.
04:35So I'm 25 now.
04:36I started transitioning at eating.
04:39We always take our hormone shots together.
04:43Yeah, we're kind of used to it.
04:45We do it before we sleep.
04:46It's actually one of our bonding moments.
04:49She's making me calm and helping me take my shots regularly and on time.
04:56People say that our relationship is kind of weird.
05:00Kylie is my first trans woman girlfriend.
05:03First trans woman that I dated actually.
05:06I think gender to me isn't a problem.
05:09I don't really care about gender.
05:10But then I started realizing that being with trans men made me feel comfortable about myself as well.
05:17I feel like they would understand me in a deeper level than other people.
05:22I used to be misgendered all the time.
05:25But dating trans women, I really can just be myself.
05:31Let me ask you guys.
05:33Do you plan heading this a long-term relationship?
05:39Yes.
05:40Yeah.
05:40Really?
05:41Like getting married?
05:43Something like that?
05:44Yeah.
05:44Yeah.
05:44I mean, we're talking about getting married then one day.
05:50Okay.
05:50So that must be serious.
05:52Yeah.
05:54As long as she don't hurt her, then I'm okay with that.
05:57As long as she doesn't hurt me also.
06:00Well, for Kylie, I know how she loves a man.
06:04I think people also have this notion of us.
06:08We were not gonna last.
06:09This relationship is just for fun.
06:12I can see.
06:14Are you serious?
06:16Yeah.
06:17Do you fight?
06:18Yeah, of course we do.
06:20In a normal relationship, everybody fights.
06:22Yeah.
06:22That's true.
06:23But we always talk about it and Kylie has her own opinions and I have my own opinion.
06:29We didn't grow up in the same household.
06:32Yeah.
06:33So the question is, do you think we make a good call?
06:39At first, no.
06:41Now?
06:42But now?
06:44Yeah.
06:45I can see that.
06:47I can see that.
06:48You know?
06:48John loves you so much and he loves you so much.
06:52So let's get married.
06:57John has taught me how to see myself in a different light where I would feel even more confident or
07:04I would feel more empowered.
07:06With Kylie, I am more confident and I can share more about being trans and what are the good things
07:13of being who you are really and not really having to hide in the shadows.
07:19I really do think that I would prefer people to both know that we're trans.
07:26Being proud about who we are is super important.
07:29We're putting ourselves out there also to show the visibility of trans people more.
07:35What I love about John is that I think he really brings out the best in me.
07:40Our relationship works because we're able to just be ourselves and we feel really comfortable just being together and we
07:47understand each other in so many ways.
07:49We don't misgender each other. We feel that each other's company is a safe space.
08:10This is very small members of the world.
08:10We'll get to DifferentIsn't it?
08:10We all hung over the world, I have advanced space, so many each other are the best.
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