00:00People think Chris Sims, though, believed they could win
00:03with any top 15 quarterback.
00:04He was the one who was cited as a former member of Bill Staff
00:07who had said that.
00:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08That's what Bill thinks.
00:09Sims was all about Belichick, thinking it was Belichick
00:11that was pulling the strings and not Brady.
00:13I mean, I don't think I was living here at the time
00:15when Chris Sims was on this team for, right, just for training camp.
00:18I don't think he made the team for.
00:21But I think he was here and backed up Brady for a training camp, I think.
00:25So Chris Sims came out with a list,
00:27and it was the top 10 quarterbacks in their prime,
00:32ranking the top 10 quarterbacks from when they were in their prime.
00:35First, let me ask you this, Ted.
00:36What year do you believe Tom Brady was in his prime?
00:40Oh, I mean, it's got to be 2007 to 2017.
00:46See, I would say his best year, like the one where I was like.
00:49Oh, just the one year?
00:50I'm just trying to take one sample.
00:53When you visualize Tom Brady.
00:54Yeah, with Randy Moss and Welker.
00:5650 touchdowns.
00:57No question.
00:58I think the exact same thing.
01:00So just imagine that.
01:01He was 30 by that.
01:03Is that like the average age?
01:05Do you think that's prime athlete in football?
01:07For that position, I would say.
01:09For other positions, I'd say you're on the back nine.
01:13Yeah.
01:14Yeah.
01:14So here are Chris Sims' ranking of the top 10 quarterbacks in their prime.
01:21Let's go to number one.
01:23Number one is Peyton Manning.
01:25Okay.
01:25Oh, boy.
01:27That's, you know, a little bit of a hot take.
01:28Oh, boy.
01:29But you knew he'd be near the top.
01:31Sure.
01:32Prime Peyton Manning was amazing.
01:34He was a fantastic quarterback.
01:35But he's number one, not Brady.
01:37All right.
01:37So obviously, let's see who number two is.
01:39Number two is Patrick Mahomes.
01:41Okay.
01:42All right.
01:43Patrick Mahomes should also be near the top.
01:45Mm-hmm.
01:46So where's Tom Brady?
01:47He's got to be number three.
01:48Number three for you in a prime year's quarterback countdown list is, oh, Aaron Rodgers.
01:54Oh.
01:54Oh, that guy.
01:56No.
01:57No.
01:58I mean, in his prime, man.
02:00I don't know, man.
02:01In his prime.
02:02He did win three MVP awards, I think.
02:05His one title.
02:05I know.
02:06It's only one title.
02:07But, man, in his prime.
02:08Four MVPs, actually.
02:10Sad to admit that.
02:11He did win four.
02:12All right.
02:12Well, listen.
02:13Did he really?
02:13Yeah.
02:14Four MVPs one time.
02:15One Super Bowl.
02:18If that says, if that doesn't say Aaron Rodgers, what else?
02:22Exactly.
02:23All right.
02:23So if you're going to go to Aaron Rodgers, then Tom Brady's got to be number four, right?
02:26Yeah.
02:27And number four is going to be John Elway.
02:29Oh, I love John.
02:30All right.
02:30John Elway.
02:31Yeah.
02:32Okay.
02:32Then he's got to be number five, right?
02:34At least.
02:34Number five quarterback would be, is going to be Brett Favre.
02:37All right, Brett.
02:38I love Brett.
02:39The gunslinger.
02:41Another one title guy.
02:42The gunslinger.
02:42He did win three MVPs, too.
02:44Brett Favre, yes, he did.
02:45Yeah.
02:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:47Does it say, how old was he when he won his last one?
02:50When he's last MVP?
02:51Was it all with Green Bay?
02:53I'd be curious.
02:54Was there any when he was?
02:54Because that Vikings year.
02:55Vikings year was insane, dude.
02:57Yeah, it was pretty damn good.
02:58I don't know if he won MVP, but he was, that first year was great.
03:01It was unbelievable.
03:02Yeah.
03:03He kind of shoved it in their face pretty good.
03:05Oh, big time.
03:05Big time.
03:06All right, let's go to, okay, so that was number five?
03:08That'd be six?
03:08Brady, come on.
03:09Brady's got to be six.
03:10Number six is going to be Josh Allen.
03:15Who's never won a Super Bowl.
03:17And I mean, he had five turnovers in that division round.
03:21Just saying, it's Denver.
03:22Yeah, he had a great play.
03:23All right, so he's not number six.
03:26Brady's got to be seven, right?
03:28Number seven, just ahead of Dan Marino is?
03:30Lamar Jackson.
03:31Okay.
03:32This is insane.
03:33Lamar Jackson ahead of Tom Brady.
03:36So I guess the next one's Dan Marino then, right?
03:39Number eight, their peak year.
03:41Dan Marino.
03:41Okay.
03:43Dan Marino's, you know, I would probably put him in the top ten.
03:46Sure.
03:47Yeah, for sure.
03:47Dan Marino's in the top ten.
03:48So Fran Tarkenton is next, or what are we going to do?
03:51Who's number nine?
03:51Number nine for you.
03:52There's going to be Tom Brady.
03:57Wow, wow, wow, wow.
03:59Does he give criteria on how he's picked these?
04:01Just in their prime.
04:01It's such a bizarre, like, you know, in their prime.
04:05I don't know.
04:05Okay, so here's how you make an argument for Tom Brady to be a nice.
04:08Here's what he said.
04:09This was his justification.
04:11He said, Tom Brady did get afforded the luxury, especially in his prime,
04:15in the early prime years of, we are not asking you to carry the team.
04:19Belichick is going to come up with an unbelievable defensive game plan.
04:22That's a little bit of a nice towards you there.
04:24Okay.
04:25He added that Brady, quote, was not going to extend plays
04:29and needed strong pass protection to thrive,
04:32unlike some of the other quarterbacks on his list
04:34who overcame difficult circumstances with sheer talent.
04:39I don't understand.
04:41First of all, like that, why is he talking about the first three Super Bowls
04:45when that's not him in his prime?
04:47Yeah, he went to seven other ones, Chris, after that.
04:50Just seven more.
04:52By the way, Favre MVPs in 95, 6, and 97.
04:54Three years in a row, ages 26, 27, 28.
04:57Yeah, okay.
04:57All right.
04:58I mean, this is a joke.
04:59It's such a joke.
05:01It's almost not even worth giving the attention it deserves,
05:04other than that's obviously what he wants.
05:06And the region, Keefe brought this up, is in a weird state with Brady.
05:10You almost feel like not defending him based on how weird it feels.
05:14You know, Brady lately is weird.
05:16He's just an odd guy.
05:17But here's the difference.
05:18You may not be able to defend his personal actions off the field.
05:22He's a weird-ass dude and kind of a dick.
05:24But on the field?
05:25Killer.
05:26It's a killer.
05:27He's the best of all time, unquestioned.
05:29There's not even any kind of blurry vision of it being anybody else other than Tom Brady.
05:37Like, his number one quarterback in his prime is Peyton Manning, who never left the pocket.
05:42So, I'm thinking, well, maybe he likes guys that leave the pocket, guys that are athletes.
05:45They'll put Mike Vick in there or something like that.
05:47Right.
05:47Yeah, but no.
05:47His number one quarterback is Peyton Manning, who lived five yards behind the center.
05:52Right.
05:53Which is where Tom lived.
05:54So, wait a minute, you can't, Peyton Manning's ball was, like, not a tight spiral.
06:01I mean, he got it done.
06:02It was a very simple system.
06:04They played 11 personnel.
06:05They didn't motion a lot.
06:07Dude, Tom was on another level.
06:09I'm sorry, Peyton.
06:10Love you, bro.
06:11Love you.
06:117-1 against you.
06:12Love you.
06:13You're a great quarterback.
06:14But, to me, the two styles, you can compare the two styles because they're both pocketbacks.
06:19And, to have them eight players apart is ridiculous.
06:24Is it a hot take that I would put Mahomes ahead of Peyton on that list?
06:28No, I don't think it's hot.
06:29Okay.
06:29No.
06:29Because, if I was looking at that list, I would go Brady, Mahomes, probably Peyton third.
06:36I got to think a little bit more.
06:37But, the first two.
06:38I mean, Mahomes won three titles.
06:39The other guys won two.
06:40I mean, that's not crazy at all.
06:41You just feel like he's a better, bigger winner.
06:44I think I've seen more holy crap moments from Mahomes than I have from Peyton.
06:48And, Peyton's had some great ones.
06:50But, Mahomes was magic.
06:52Now, 14 Pro Bowls for Peyton Manning to six right now for Mahomes.
06:55So, it's just the body of work.
06:57The longevity is pretty amazing.
06:59No.
06:59But, I would put Mahomes ahead.
07:01Like, you're talking about in their primes.
07:02If that's the whole thing about this list.
07:04Mahomes is ahead of Peyton.
07:05Yeah.
07:05For sure.
07:05I would think so, too.
07:06For sure.
07:07I mean, you know what?
07:08Peyton had really good defenses.
07:10And, he had Edron James.
07:12He had great tight ends.
07:13He had great wide receivers.
07:15I mean, you know, Mahomes had, obviously, Travis Kelsey.
07:18But, I think Patrick Mahomes did more with less than Peyton did.
07:23Oh, sure.
07:24And, you know, listen.
07:25Brady didn't always have the best weapons.
07:27No.
07:27So, I mean, Chris Sims just hates Tom Brady.
07:31And, you know what?
07:31He got our clicks.
07:32He got us talking about them.
07:34And, once again, just like Bedard.
07:35Don't.
07:36Whatever you do, Christian Gonzalez, don't talk about me.
07:39And, let them retweet my stories.
07:41Please don't do it.
07:42Which, of course, makes them retweet it.
07:43Yeah.
07:44Where's Joe Montana on that list?
07:45That's an interesting thing.
07:46That's a great point.
07:48I mean, I guess you would put him.
07:49He didn't have a prime.
07:49Would you put him ahead of Marino?
07:51I know that he won more, obviously.
07:52But, Marino's numbers were insane.
07:54You know what?
07:55Sorry.
07:55I have two.
07:56Yeah.
07:56Four Super Bowls.
07:57Really?
07:57Yeah.
07:57Yeah.
07:57You kind of got two.
07:58I thought you went the other way.
07:59No.
07:59I put Marino.
08:00I put, excuse me, Montana in front of Marino.
08:02Montana out of that.
08:02Yeah.
08:02Yeah.
08:03Well, there you go.
08:04Somebody said, who do you want other than Tom Brady as your winning quarterback?
08:08Like, if you had one game, who would you want?
08:10Like, in their prime.
08:11Anybody better than Tom Brady?
08:12Nobody.
08:13No.
08:13Nobody.
08:14No one.
08:14No one.
08:15Uh-uh.
08:15Sorry.
08:15None.
08:16Someone said Brady treated Sims poorly when Sims was on the roster there for that preseason,
08:20and that's why Sims doesn't like him.
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