00:00We are adjourned on Day 5 of the impeachment trial of Vice President Sara Duterte after the redirect and re
00:08-crossed Attorney Jeremy Lotto.
00:11We are going to take a look at some of the documents of the National Bureau of Investigation.
00:18And we are going to be live with Sandra Aguinaldo.
00:22Sandra?
00:26Yes, Vicky. Matapos nga ang ilang oras na cross-examination ng abogado ni Vice President Sara Duterte,
00:34ay nagkaroon naman ang pagkakataon ng prosecution para si tinatawag na redirect.
00:40Ito yung maari muli silang magtanong para makapagpaliwanag ang kanilang witness na si Attorney Jeremy Lotto,
00:47dating jepe ng NBI Cybercrime Division at namuno sa investigasyon sa sinasabing pagbabanta ng bise sa buhay ng Pangulo noong
00:562024.
00:58Isa na dito yung tungkol sa tanong ng depensa tungkol sa umunay pagkakamali sa ilang dokumento ng NBI gaya ng
01:06Sapecha.
01:10With all these mga infirmities, don't you think that these errors constituted violations of due process?
01:20Your Honor, the existence of these typographical errors does not alter the fact that the video exists,
01:30that the Vice President uttered those statements,
01:33na ang NBI mayroang findings, the Vice President committed the crime of great threats and inciting the sedition.
01:47Tinanong muli si Lotok ng private prosecutor na si Attorney Ligutan tungkol sa mga ito.
01:54Gayt ni Lotok, wala itong epekto sa nakita sa video na nagbanta o mano ang bise na may nakausap na
02:01siya
02:01para patayin ang Pangulo, ang First Lady at dating Speaker.
02:08The NBI supposedly started its investigation on November 23,
02:14but there was already a subpina dated November 6. Do you remember that?
02:20Yes, sir.
02:21Mr. Witness, how do you characterize this error, if at all?
02:27Typo, sir. Typographical error.
02:29Basically, hindi ito substantial insofar as the document is concerned.
02:34Ito po yung may mga instance maling spelling o nagkamali lang ng date.
02:39Then, kung makita mo naman dun sa surrounding circumstances,
02:43ito naman ang tinutukoy na date.
02:44O gaya ng mga case numbers.
02:49Case numbers.
02:51Now, what effect, if any, did this typographical error have
02:57on the statement of the vice president threatening the president and the two others?
03:05What's the effect, if any, of these errors?
03:08They don't have any effect at all insofar as the findings of the NBI is concerned, sir.
03:13Why is that?
03:14Well, because those typographical errors does not alter the fact that the video exists.
03:23It does not alter the fact that the vice president uttered those statements.
03:27And it does not alter the fact that the findings of the NBI is that the vice president committed
03:33the crime of great threats and inciting to sedition.
04:01I was asked Romanov, and then I answered, I was told by two people,
04:06this is the first time I've heard of Romanov, so that is the third already.
04:10And I said, don't worry about my security.
04:13Pag namatay ako, I already asked a person to take revenge against three individuals.
04:33Ayon pa kay Loto, kindi umunaw na kialam ang Pangulo sa investigasyon ng NBI.
04:38Giit niya, lumabas sa kanilang investigasyon na nagbanta talaga ang vice.
04:43At seryoso ito bilang siya ang ikalawang pinakamataas na opisyal ng bansa.
04:54At the same time, yung pagiging...
05:02For the record, assisting counsel for the prosecutor, accompanied by...
05:06...I don't have any effect at all in so far as the findings of the NBI is concerned.
05:11Why is that?
05:11Well, because those typographical errors
05:17does not alter the fact that the video exists.
05:33Muling kiit niya, hindi maituturing na freedom of expression lamang
05:37ang pagpapahayag ng B.C. at maituturing daw itong betrayal of public trust.
05:44Ang nature ng Ate Ron says, may kinausap na ako, ma'am, wag kang mag-alala.
05:49So, ibig sabihin, even before the questions was asked,
05:53may kinausap na ako ang B.C. President.
05:55There is intent on the part of the Vice President.
05:59The Vice President is determined insofar as that statement is concerned.
06:07At the same time, the utterances were not product of a temporary feat of anger
06:13or spare of the moment.
06:18In other words, the utterances, the threat was real, was serious, Your Honor.
06:26No.
06:34Sa pagtatanong ng mga Senador, ay pinalutang ni Senador Robin Padilla
06:39ang ilang question sa kredibilidad po ni Lotok.
06:42Isa ditong umano'y pagkakaroon niya ng kaso sa ombudsman.
06:46Pero sinagot ni Lotok na wala raw opisyal na komunikasyon mula sa ombudsman
06:52tungkol sa kaso at nang mag-check daw siya, ay peke umano ang notaryo ng naturang reklamo.
06:59Sa ngayon, ang pinakahuling naganap dito bago po mag-adjourn,
07:02ay sinabi po ng prosecution na hindi na po nila isasalang.
07:06Ang dalawang witness nila, ito po si Attorney Zulayca Lopez,
07:10ng Office of the Vice President, at Captain Belinda Bellion, ng House of Representatives.
07:14Dahil ayon po kay Kapunan, ay wala na po silang idadagdag pa
07:18at nasabi na rin naman yung sasabihin nila sa harap ng hukuman.
07:23So yan muna po ang pinakahuling ulat mula dito sa Senado.
07:26Vicky?
07:26Maraming salamat sa iyo, Sandra Aguinaldo.
07:31Maraming salamat sa iyo.
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