00:00Steve just hired you, right?
00:01No, Steve wasn't there. He had been fired.
00:05Ah, at this time?
00:06At the time.
00:07But I was lucky enough to meet Steve when he came back,
00:11and then worked with him for 20 years or so.
00:15Do you remember the first exchange you had with him?
00:19Yeah, I do.
00:20You know, we didn't get off to the best way.
00:24He wasn't that impressed with what I was presenting,
00:26but by the end of the meeting, we did hit it off,
00:31and then we worked together for a very long time,
00:34but it started with the Apple online store.
00:36Oh, yeah, wow.
00:38So you did present to him, and your team,
00:40you presented something he did not accept?
00:43It happened sometimes?
00:45Yeah, no, he didn't accept it in the beginning of the meeting.
00:49And he was right about what he was the feedback,
00:53but by the end of the meeting, we had reached a point
00:59where I think he thought I could do this well,
01:02and so it worked out pretty well for me,
01:05and I think it worked out well for him too.
01:07Oh, that's cool, yeah.
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