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Abdi is best known for his Oscar-nominated performance alongside Tom Hanks in 'Captain Phillips,' where he played a Somali pirate who took Phillips's (Hanks) ship hostage.
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00:03Hi, this is Mariah Gullow from The Hollywood Reporter. We're in studio today with Barkhad Abdi and Brian Buckley.
00:10And we're talking about the Pirates of Somalia.
00:12Thank you for having us.
00:13Yes, thank you so much for coming.
00:15So Brian, tell me about how you came across this project and why you decided to write this script.
00:22Well, I was involved with UNHCR working with refugees on a short film, short doc.
00:32And that doc I shot in northern Africa and Kenya and southern Sudan.
00:38And ultimately that film, we finished it and the idea was to show the value of refugees to the world.
00:45And I fell in love with the Somalis at that point.
00:49They were in the camp in Kakuma, coming in by the thousands.
00:53And when I was there, BBC was there and their correspondents were saying that they couldn't go into Somalia at
00:59that time.
00:59It was too dangerous.
01:02And the film we finished, there's this short piece, and it really got watered down and no one really saw
01:08it.
01:08Mainly because it had to fill what needed to be done with the UN and sort of it couldn't have,
01:14I think, the edge that we were hoping for.
01:15So I shot another film, independently of that, called Assad.
01:19And that film was using the refugees as actors.
01:24And then shot in southern South Africa by the Somalis and told the same, basically the story we tried to
01:31tell on the doc, but used them as actors and told the tale.
01:33The reference piece for that piece of work was Pirates of Somalia.
01:41And that book was written by Jay Badur.
01:44And we were using it when we were down there in South Africa, shooting, because there was no other material.
01:50And his book told the whole story about piracy and told about Somalia.
01:54And it was the only thing out there.
01:55Our film would go on and get an Oscar nom, the short, Assad.
02:00And that sort of fueled like the interest.
02:03We bought the rights to the book.
02:04Jay was on The Daily Show at that time and he was funny and engaging.
02:10And so we said we got to tell his story, which is about a 24-year-old kid who goes
02:16to Somalia to sort of investigate piracy and falls in love with the people.
02:22And what made you decide to kind of bring Jay into it?
02:26I know you're saying that he's funny and engaging.
02:29But why did you decide it was best to just bring the author into the place?
02:33Well, because his book, it was interesting because his book was about piracy and it was about Somalia.
02:38And it was actually about the newfound democracy in Somalia.
02:40That was his real love.
02:42It was so interesting to me that he, you know, in 25 pages of the book or maybe the first
02:47chapter was about him.
02:48He didn't even want to write about himself.
02:49He cared so much about this other stuff.
02:51And he didn't go to journalism school.
02:54He was this kind, like, he's like many of us, kind of come out of college, you're going, you've made
03:01this career choice or lack of career choice.
03:03And you're stuck and you're like, is this it?
03:05Like, am I done?
03:06Or I want to bring change and I don't know how to do it.
03:09And this is one guy that actually, crazy as it was, he took it upon himself to bring change.
03:13He went there to sort of tell the truth.
03:16And didn't have a news organization.
03:18Didn't have anyone behind him.
03:19Just went there.
03:21And that to me is inspiring.
03:23Like, that we need that.
03:24I mean, right now, this time, you know, never more important than right now, I think,
03:30to have people that take it upon themselves to expose things, you know, or help the world.
03:38And he was one of those people, you know.
03:41Right.
03:41And what were some of the risks that you show in the movie of how, you know, journalism can be
03:48used in different ways?
03:50Well.
03:51To, you know, I mean, there's the whole kind of conflict between the danger of a Muslim country being represented
04:01in a negative light if you're doing these, like, journalistic pieces on them.
04:06And can you just talk a little bit about that?
04:08Yeah.
04:08I mean, I can talk about, I mean, the high, the, yeah.
04:11Unfortunately, and this is even going back to when I was working on the doc.
04:15I mean, people talked about Somalia in three ways.
04:18It was either Al-Shabaab, you know, there was a famine, and there was piracy.
04:23And no one knew anything about the culture there.
04:25Like, zero.
04:26Like, you could tell me nothing about the culture.
04:28Because that's what gets ratings.
04:30That's what gets people interested in the story, you know.
04:33And that is the world that we're in right now, unfortunately.
04:38The headline-grabbing world.
04:41Even Jay went there.
04:43His intent was the democracy part, which was interesting to him.
04:46But really, he knew piracy was his way in there.
04:50The danger, of course, is you're running with a group of people that are, you know, dangerous people, you know,
04:57like, generally speaking, in a very dangerous country for reporters.
05:01And there were, you know, there, he was really solo there on his own with, you know, obviously in support
05:08of the president there, but he didn't, in Poland, but he didn't have the, the, you know, he didn't have
05:17guards and everything.
05:18They were provided by the local government.
05:22So, it's real.
05:23The danger is real.
05:24Kidnappings are real.
05:25All this stuff is real.
05:26I mean, no one can speak better to that than Barcott.
05:29Yeah.
05:29But, but to find the truth, to pursue that, he's there now.
05:34I mean, he's still going in there.
05:36I mean, he shot pieces of footage in that movie.
05:39I sent them in with a camera and come back.
05:41And there were the trucks behind him with the guns.
05:43Still, to this day, he's going in and out of there.
05:46So, it's like, it's real.
05:48The dangers are real.
05:49He is, I feel like he's like sort of an angel.
05:52And ironically today, you know, just minutes ago, I think the travel ban just went back through again.
05:57I don't know if you saw that.
05:58But, so, it's sickening, you know, and what's the urgency for this movie now?
06:07It needs to happen.
06:08Absolutely.
06:09Yeah.
06:09Barcott, can you tell me a little bit about how you became involved in this project?
06:13And your character, because he's such a great character.
06:18Well, first, when this script came to me, you know, it did have a different name.
06:25But, it was the same script.
06:27And I fell in love with it.
06:28Well, from the first time I read it, it's just written in a very, very beautiful way.
06:35And it was just a whole different side to the piracy and to the culture.
06:41And so, it was, I loved it from the second I read it.
06:46And to be honest with you, it came better than I thought it would be.
06:51So, you know, it was just, you know, it was just like really unbelievable.
06:57You know, the first time I seen it, I can remember, you know, I was, you know, head over heels.
07:02And I was really excited and happy and couldn't wait for the world to see it.
07:06Yeah.
07:07Yeah.
07:08So, it's, that's what happened, you know, my agent sent me the script.
07:11And, you know, I liked it from right away.
07:14And I was speaking to Brian.
07:17I got to know him.
07:18Then I already knew some of his work.
07:19I seen Asad, you know, which was an amazing short film.
07:24And so, it was really exciting.
07:27So, we got to know each other from there.
07:29And we spoke on the phone.
07:30And, you know, he was just, you know, really a good person.
07:34So, we went there and, you know, we did it.
07:37And we got to know each other really well.
07:39And it was, you know, it was just a great journey.
07:41And I enjoyed working on this movie.
07:44And it was, it was really a great experience.
07:48What was this experience like working with Evan Peters?
07:52Because in your previous movie, Captain Phillips, you famously were not allowed to meet Tom Hanks until you were on
07:59set filming your scene.
08:00Yes.
08:01So, what was it like kind of having a different approach, like a different collaborative process with your co-star?
08:06Yes.
08:07Well, Evan is a great actor.
08:09And, you know, he's just an amazing human being as well.
08:12You know, we, we first met at the airplane, actually.
08:17When I went to Cape Town.
08:20And it's, you know, it's kind of, you know, while we were getting to know each other, we were shooting
08:25the movie.
08:26So, you know, as you watch the movie, our chemistry is kind of building up as the movie goes.
08:32And that's somewhat was how our relationship was going.
08:37By the time the movie was over, you know, we had a good relationship.
08:40You know, we understood each other.
08:42And, you know, he's, I think he did a phenomenal job in this movie.
08:45You know, he's, he did a great, great, great part in this movie, starring this movie for us.
08:53And, you know, I enjoyed working with him.
08:55He's, you know, he's really a good person.
08:58Yeah.
08:59So this is basically kind of a period piece because it takes place in 2007.
09:03And it's interesting.
09:05There's a lot, there seems to be a lot of interest around this time period because it's such a crucial
09:09time period in modern history.
09:13The financial collapse, you know, so many conflicts abroad.
09:19What is it like to kind of tell that story but also kind of have a story that's so relevant
09:24right now?
09:25It's, I mean, it's interesting because, like, I know you're going like, is this now or is this that?
09:31Like, it just, the cycles are so quick now.
09:33Like, you know, that, and also, like, that doesn't seem like that long ago, but the technology obviously has changed
09:42a bit.
09:42You know, this or that has changed.
09:44You're talking like a semi-period piece.
09:45But I don't know, like, that sort of desperation that I think in some ways exists now in a different
09:54form.
09:55Then it was like financial people came out of school and they were sort of stuck or the world sort
09:59of collapsed
09:59and they had to rebuild their lives in this moment.
10:02Now I think it's more like a more political sort of situation currently because, you know, obviously at that point,
10:10there was, you know, Obama had just come into office.
10:11But in this case, I think that there's a political sort of I got to bring change sort of moment
10:18that I think people tap into.
10:20So it works on both levels, you know.
10:23But it's interesting.
10:25But I think you come out of school, you want to bring changes, you want to do something.
10:31I think many people want that.
10:33And I think that's, people relate to that now, you know.
10:36And Somalia right now, I mean, politically speaking, I don't, listen, awareness of Somalia is probably at an all-time
10:44high right now
10:45because of the stuff that's going on.
10:47So in essence, there's no better time to get to know the culture than it is right now.
10:52So I feel like that's good because I think people are open to that, you know.
10:56And in the credits of your film, you list all of the cast members who are refugees.
11:02Why did you find it important to do that?
11:04Well, I mean, I even did it on the short, mainly to show that the, we're, film is an ecosystem.
11:14You know, a film is an ecosystem.
11:16I mean, it's this incredible thing where everyone sort of works together from all different ways to bring this entertainment,
11:21to bring this thing to you that you can sit and enjoy and laugh.
11:25Like comedy, humor, okay?
11:26Yeah.
11:27Right.
11:27And there is a lot of humor.
11:29There's a lot of humor.
11:29We don't talk about it because like, oh my god, Somalia, humor, oh my god, terrible, terrible.
11:33But there is, and that's what I've discovered about the culture.
11:39The number one thing I discovered about it.
11:40So a refugee who might be going through incredible hardship, doesn't mean they don't laugh.
11:44Doesn't mean that they can't, they're full, they're wonderful, fully formed human beings.
11:50You know, like, it's like, just the idea was like, this was a collection of people that brought this to
11:55you.
11:55You know, it's really important, I think, to know that.
11:59Yeah.
12:00What was Jay's reaction to the film?
12:03Has he seen the film?
12:04How long was he?
12:05It was really funny.
12:06Yeah.
12:07He got drunk before he saw the screen.
12:10He said, I had a few drinks.
12:12He's stressed out, huh?
12:12He was so stressed out.
12:14We did a screening for him in New York.
12:16And he goes, I have to be honest, I had a couple drinks for him.
12:19I watched it in the middle of the day.
12:20What was he worried about?
12:22Because he's 32 years old, he's already seeing his life.
12:25Like, you're not supposed to see your life at 32, unless you're a rock star or something.
12:28Like, you know.
12:29And usually it ends very badly.
12:31You know, oh, let's do that, you know, that biopic on this rock.
12:35So he was sort of like, in a situation there where he was really nervous.
12:43Really, because it all just happened.
12:45I don't think he thought this would happen.
12:48And now I'm watching my life, I'm watching my mom get depicted, my dad, you know, my ex-girlfriend, all
12:54that stuff.
12:55Yeah.
12:55Like, all these things that suddenly become, like, fully formed.
12:58And it was, I was equally nervous that he was going to go, like, dude, this is not even close.
13:04You know, because you always hear those stories, you're like, what do you do now?
13:08Like, this person thinks that you didn't, you know, and that would never be the intent.
13:10And it was really great, because he was so, so supportive of it when it was over.
13:14Yeah, he loved it.
13:15He said, oh, you know, you made him funnier than me.
13:19Uh-huh.
13:20You know.
13:20I think he liked Evan as, you know, Evan's a pretty good looking guy to have to play.
13:24I love Evan to play me.
13:25I mean, I think he's pretty happy with that.
13:27So he got that, you know.
13:29So, I don't know, I think he was pretty happy in the end, you know.
13:31That's great.
13:32That's good.
13:33Now, with the post coming out around Christmas time, there's a lot of, like, renewed interest in, you know, the
13:39role of journalism in our country, especially this year.
13:44You know, what kind of statements do you want to make to that?
13:46Like, your film makes a lot of statements to the fact that journalism can be used in many different ways.
13:54And, you know, right now, how do you feel like narrative film is being used to kind of do the
14:01same thing?
14:02Well, I think we have a tremendous, tremendous responsibility.
14:06Mm-hmm.
14:06The narrative film has a tremendous responsibility.
14:09Hollywood has a tremendous responsibility.
14:11And it's a hard road to be that responsible.
14:14I'm not, it is not easy.
14:16You know, like, no one was dying to make a film on Somalia from a Somalia position.
14:20It just isn't, that's unfortunate, but it's the way it is.
14:23And so I, I feel like right now, like I said, I think there's a, there's such an interest in
14:31the truth, you know, and it's such an interest in journalism right now.
14:34I mean, there's never been a higher amount of that.
14:36So for us to find these stories and sort of tell these stories about the pursuit of that.
14:40And even if you're not in a news organization, such as Jay, and he's out there, you know, gunning and
14:44making that happen.
14:46If the story, if the film can, you know, whatever story you're out there telling and comes back true to
14:53that sort of goal of that writer, hopefully that's an inspiration.
14:58Hopefully that brings more stories, you know.
15:00And I think, you know, this is, it's strange because I've never seen so many All the President's Men references
15:07this year.
15:09Like this was all done before, like literally before the, you know, you know, it's like, it is so topical
15:15right now, which I guess it's a cycle, but it's an important kind of like check the, like, we must
15:21check this, we must, is a desperation to it.
15:24I feel, you know, that way with this film, very, very much like, there was no choice but to make
15:29this movie.
15:30There was no choice when he read the script, I think he said to me, to make, he didn't want
15:33to do a pirate movie.
15:34I didn't do anything to the pirates.
15:35Read the script.
15:36He didn't.
15:36He said, I didn't want to do it.
15:38But it's like, because he's done that, you know.
15:40And I'm not itching to go run off and go do this thing.
15:43How many Somali pirate scripts do you get a year now?
15:46Not that much.
15:49You know, but, you know, this script is way different.
15:53So, you know.
15:54It is.
15:55Yeah.
15:55I'm really proud of this movie.
15:56Yeah.
15:57And I'm really proud of the screenplay that he wrote and, you know, how he directed this movie, you know.
16:01So, it's really exciting.
16:03Mm-hmm.
16:04Yeah.
16:05And what is, I mean, we touched on it a little bit with the travel ban, but what's happening with
16:08Somalia right now?
16:09I mean, I know that at the end of your film, there are some facts about what had happened since
16:14the film transpired, and now things have changed again.
16:18Yeah.
16:19Well, I mean, they have and haven't.
16:20I mean, the U.S. is still, you know, and I'm far, far from an expert at this, but they're,
16:24you know, military-wise, we've opened up relations.
16:27We are there, boots on the ground, in Somalia, you know.
16:30We're using them to fight against the South, you know, or working with the Somalis government.
16:37So, I mean, and some of these other governments are also involved on the ban list that have been involved
16:43in fighting terrorism, you know.
16:44Yeah.
16:45And yet their people are banned from coming to the United States, which is sort of not, certainly not.
16:51I don't think sending the right message at all.
16:53And it's sad.
16:54I think that, you know, I remain very hopeful.
17:00You know, we're talking about this, the fact this film's breaking this week is sort of ironic that this would
17:05happen right now.
17:06Yeah.
17:06But to educate is the only way to sort of, I think, overcome this sort of prejudice behavior that we're,
17:14you know, and fear, I should say, a lot of fear of Muslim countries.
17:18Yeah.
17:18That is based on lack of knowledge about their culture.
17:23Right.
17:23And it could come straight from that, you know.
17:25Right.
17:25And just like a, people seem to have a problem understanding what a refugee is, which is kind of amazing
17:32considering that our country is built on refugees.
17:35Built on that.
17:36Built on refugees.
17:37Right.
17:37Like none of us would be here without it.
17:39Yeah.
17:39And then, you know, so it, you know, the refugee, I mean, it was interesting.
17:43I mean, real quick, it's like when we were in that camp in Kakuma, the average amount of time a
17:47refugee remained in that camp was 17 years.
17:50Oh, my God.
17:51And they could not get out.
17:52And that's a prison.
17:53In northern, in Kenya, you know, basically a prison, jail.
17:56You know, you can't get out.
17:57But the best education there was available really was in that camp.
18:01And the only way to get out is either another nation takes them on or they go back to their
18:05war-torn nation.
18:06It's not really a choice.
18:07And so now they're there.
18:10And there's so many people that can contribute so much to our culture, to this man right here.
18:18Look at what he's, you know, I was talking about this the other night.
18:20Look what he's done.
18:21He's on your show twice now.
18:23He's filling 10 minutes of very important air time.
18:25But it's like, it's like, but he, you know what I'm saying, he's a gift.
18:31A gift from a country, you know, a gift.
18:34There's a lot of gifts that are going to contribute to our art, you know.
18:39I mean, to what we are, you know, whether it's a software company, to acting, whatever, you know.
18:44Yeah.
18:45What do you think people, what can people do if they see your movie and they're motivated to act on,
18:51you know, the plight of Somalia or Somalian refugees?
18:54What could people do?
18:56Well, I think, listen, it depends on what position they are in life, you know.
19:03Definitely, yeah.
19:04Yeah, I think that really is wide open, right.
19:09I think that remaining, you know, whether you're, if you're an employer and the ability to employ, then, you know,
19:16employ.
19:17You know, if you have the ability to send, you know, help, you know, food, whatever, that's fine.
19:23But I actually feel that, and obviously there's great crisis there, but I think really reaching out to your government
19:32and trying to get people to the U.S. government, whatever, to get them to open their eyes, to bring,
19:38to allow.
19:39The travel ban to me is a really strong indication of what needs, that this is a very unhealthy thing
19:44for America.
19:45To, if the people should be able to move freely, we should be able to, you know, if you also
19:51look at another country, and I just, you know, screen films all the time, there's so many parts of the
19:55world, not just Somalia.
19:57I mean, Somalia is just one place, just one, that we just need to learn more about.
20:02Go to that country, go find out about another culture, go create the movie, go do the thing that's going
20:07to bring that change.
20:08You can do it, if Jay can do it, you know, if he's here, if I'm here, trust me, I
20:13can't speak for me, I can't speak for him.
20:15We're all came from nothing, basically, but we're able to sort of bring, be in this moment, and very appreciative
20:21of where we are now today, you know, so I think you can do it.
20:24You can bring change a lot easier than you think, you know, you don't need the big organizations, you don't
20:29necessarily have to go join the U.N. to make that change, you know.
20:33That's an excellent quote.
20:35So I have four questions before we wrap up.
20:38It's first, best, last, worst.
20:41The first movie that inspired you to make films.
20:46For me?
20:47Yeah.
20:52I would say City of God.
20:54Oh, yeah.
20:56Yeah, I would say that movie.
20:59After I watched that movie, it's just, you know, it kind of talked to me in a way.
21:05Yeah.
21:06So that was a really inspiring movie for me.
21:10You know, I mean, it's just how it was done.
21:13So it just kind of motivated me to do something.
21:18And that was like in my early stages, that's when I decided to, you know, do a little movie in
21:24my neighborhood.
21:25Wow.
21:26So it all started for me from that way, yeah.
21:30Oh, cool.
21:32Interesting.
21:33Best day of filming on the set of Pirates of Somalia?
21:36What was your best day of filming?
21:40You want to take that?
21:40Well, for me, the best day of filming would be every day, because I enjoyed every single day filming that
21:52movie.
21:53I mean, you know, the cast, the crew, everyone was amazing.
21:57So, you know, it's one of those things that just, you know, come together, you know.
22:04And we really enjoyed, I really enjoyed the set of the Pirates of Somalia, even though the name was different.
22:11Yeah.
22:13Was it as hot to film as it was?
22:15Like the movie really, you know, it's showing the heat of Somalia.
22:21Oh, it's pretty funny.
22:21Actually, it's sort of funny.
22:23You just take this part.
22:24All right.
22:24So the tree, when he walked out to the tree.
22:27Yeah.
22:27Yeah.
22:28With Evan to do the interview with Boya.
22:30It was really cold.
22:33It was really cold.
22:34It was really cold.
22:34It was a cold day.
22:35Oh, it's chattering cold.
22:36It was really cold.
22:37It might look hot.
22:39We put the waves in later.
22:40They're like, we have to take the chatter out of the sound.
22:44Like to get rid of the chatter.
22:44I don't know how the chatter is.
22:45Anyone going to think they're chattering?
22:47No, just put some heat waves in there.
22:48Yeah.
22:49Yeah.
22:50That's great.
22:52Last person in Somalia you've spoken to.
22:55Who have you spoken to last in Somalia?
22:57Who's in there right now?
22:59In Somalia.
23:00Ooh, I got, mine's easy.
23:03The last person in Somalia I spoke to was my cousin.
23:09I spoke to him and, you know, he just finished, he just became a doctor, he told me.
23:16Oh.
23:16So I was really happy for him.
23:18I don't know exactly what kind of doctor he became, but it was really exciting, you know.
23:25He just finished doctor school in Somalia and, you know, I was really happy for him.
23:31So that was the last person.
23:32Ibrahim is his name.
23:35Excellent.
23:36Mine's Jay.
23:37Yeah.
23:37Yeah.
23:38I think it's the fact that he's still, you know, actively involved and he just could never get,
23:46you know, he's just part of that world is, you know, in Nairobi and I think he, I mean,
23:51I can't speak technically to what he's doing now, I'm not supposed to, so I won't.
23:55Okay.
23:55But he, but he is in and out of there a lot.
23:59Uh-huh.
23:59Okay.
23:59Does he stay in touch with Marion?
24:02Um, sorry, no, Marion, no, so Marion, that's all right, that's all right.
24:06So Marion was, true character, just to be like, all right.
24:10Is she amalgamation of characters?
24:12She was like, she was a real girl, Marion, that was a girl, he had a drug dealer who was
24:16Gerard's wife.
24:18Very hot.
24:18Okay, true.
24:19And hot.
24:20That I never saw her, but he said was hot.
24:24Like the most beautiful girl he saw, and then he had, I believe, conversations with her,
24:28but he did not go so far as, you know.
24:30And then the girl that showed up in the room did show up in his room just before he left,
24:34so that was real.
24:35Uh-huh, okay.
24:36So those two parts are real, but I pushed things obviously a bit beyond that.
24:41Yeah, excellent.
24:44Worst misconception about Somalia?
24:48Wow.
24:49Um, the worst misconception.
24:54I, I really think that the strength of the Somali as a person, um, and beauty as a culture, is
25:11completely not appreciated or understood.
25:14I think that, that the most inviting warm people that, and I've met a lot of cultures that I've come
25:24across are Somalis.
25:25They brought them into their home when I was in the camp right away, um, to drink and hang out,
25:32insisted on this.
25:33And very open, warm culture.
25:38Um, and that, we just don't, we see a certain part and we, and that to me is a misconception.
25:48So I'd say that's the greatest thing.
25:51With me, um, and this movie, I mean, I just want to add my two words in there.
25:56Um, but my, basically what I'm trying to say is, um, whether it's Somali or not, it's every culture, you
26:04know, need to be understood.
26:06You know, and it's never how it seems, you know, and how people betrays it.
26:13And, you know, you, people can say, oh, that country or that people are like that.
26:18And, you know, but until you take the risk and go like Jay and go to that culture and understand
26:24them, you shouldn't be judging people.
26:27Yeah.
26:28Yeah.
26:28Yeah.
26:28So that's, um, you know, the main point of our film is I believe, um, it's, um, that goes to
26:36a lot of different cultures.
26:39You know, I mean, you know, it's, I mean, you can say that a lot of different people, honestly.
26:45Yeah.
26:45It's, it's easier, again, if you look at film to take the obvious road, it's harder to go the other
26:53road.
26:53It's a much more difficult road of it showing the warmer side of things.
26:57Yeah.
26:57Yeah.
26:58Um, so, um, that's, or to go under there, it takes a lot more work.
27:03Um, and, uh, but I, I, I think, to your point, pick your culture.
27:10You can find it.
27:11Yeah.
27:11You can.
27:12You know, I just happen to be obsessed with small.
27:13Yeah.
27:14Yeah.
27:15But every, we will have the good, the bad, and the middle.
27:18Mm-hmm.
27:19Just like you walk into a second grade class and then you see the two smart ones, uh, you know,
27:26a few dumb in the middle.
27:28Right.
27:29You know, it's.
27:29You never talk to the first person who talks to you.
27:31Yeah.
27:31So it's, you know, it's just.
27:34Don't hang with them.
27:35Yeah.
27:35That's always trouble.
27:36Yeah.
27:37Well, Barkhad and Brian, thank you so much for being here with us today.
27:40Thank you for having you.
27:41Pirates of Somalia, theatrical release December 8th.
27:44Yeah.
27:44Great.
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