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A heated confrontation erupted during a congressional hearing as Markwayne Mullin and Rosa DeLauro clashed over immigration, border security, and migrant child policies. Mullin pushed back against DeLauro's criticism, accusing Democrats of ignoring issues involving unaccompanied migrant children during the Biden administration. The tense exchange quickly became one of the most talked-about moments from the hearing, reigniting debate over U.S. immigration policy and border enforcement.

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00:00Thank you, sir. Again, it is my time. 3,900 children were separated from their families.
00:06450,000 kids were lost during the Biden administration. You didn't say a word about it.
00:10Mr. Secretary, Mr. Secretary, do not interrupt.
00:12Don't you point your finger at me. Don't be a hypocrite.
00:13I will point my finger at you.
00:14Don't you be a hypocrite then. You should be as upset about the 450,000 kids that were lost.
00:20You didn't say a word about it. For four years, you never said a word.
00:23Mr. Secretary.
00:24Could you put him in his place for...
00:26You should be put in your place.
00:28I'll pay no attention to the remediation session, Mr. Chairman.
00:32I do appreciate, Mr. Secretary, your concern about the lost children.
00:38But I also want to remind people that let's not forget what was a Trump administration policy initiated by Stephen
00:48Miller,
00:49which was to let us separate children from their families at the border
00:55because this would be a way to curtail or to stop immigration,
01:03separating children from their families, how to hurt them the most.
01:08I asked and had a phone conversation with Secretary Azar at the time.
01:13I know I was in my living room with my two-year-old grandson on my lap trying to have
01:19this conversation.
01:20And I asked him if there was a way in which he had a list of how you could reunite
01:30children with their families.
01:32And he assured me that we did.
01:34You know, when you take your clothes to the cleaners, they give you a tag.
01:38And you then go back and you retrieve your clothes.
01:41When you get luggage, you go and your luggage is returned.
01:45I wish the Biden administration would have done that.
01:47Let me just say this to you, sir.
01:49Again, it is my time.
01:503,900 children were separated from their families.
01:55The 450,000 kids were lost during the Biden administration and you didn't say a word about it.
01:59Mr. Secretary, Mr. Secretary, do not interrupt.
02:01Don't you point your finger at me.
02:02I will point my finger at you.
02:03Don't you be a hypocrite then.
02:04Then you should be as upset about the 450,000 kids that were lost.
02:09He didn't say a word about it.
02:11For four years, you never said a word.
02:12Mr. Secretary.
02:13Could you put him in his place for...
02:15You should be put in your place.
02:17Mr. Secretary, if you would like four minutes for a closing statement when everybody's done, I'll give you that.
02:23But while members are on their eight minutes, I need them to have their eight minutes.
02:27I started my comments.
02:28I appreciate that.
02:29My issue is that they say this for sound bites and I'm not going to let them say something like
02:33that.
02:33What did you do just recently for sound bites?
02:35I sympathize with the 400,000.
02:38We are going to have something resembling order here.
02:41The time is the ranking members.
02:43If you would like to respond later on, there are methods to do that.
02:47But it's not a who can talk louder into the mic.
02:50It's not.
02:50So, you are recognized.
02:52Thank you very much.
02:53I will not let her sit there and lie and accuse something this ridiculous.
02:55You know, this is the legislative branch and it's my hearing and so I'm going to try to some extent
03:00to control it moderately.
03:02And do not accuse me of lying.
03:05Do not.
03:07Then don't.
03:08And I do not.
03:10I appreciate and I said to you at the outset, there is concern for children across the board.
03:17We care deeply about what's happening to children and I went to the border and I watched children in those
03:24fenced in places years ago.
03:26And what was happening to them.
03:29So, I have a long history, Mr. Secretary, in this area, 3,900 kids were separated.
03:37Secretary Azar told me he had a way to reunite them.
03:40Many of them were not reunited till today.
03:44And I don't want you to answer this now.
03:46Please, get back to us and tell us what you are doing with regard to the settlement in terms of
03:52this issue, which is out there.
03:54Which your department needs to come close to.
04:02I'll make a statement to you again, but this is fact from the bill, Mr. Chairman.
04:08The bill that the Republicans have proposed for funding the Department of Homeland Security cuts cybersecurity budget by more than
04:15$250 million.
04:16It cuts the TSA by nearly $350 million, and the Trump administration is openly advocating for privatizing TSA while trying
04:26to eliminate their collective bargaining rights.
04:30We all know what happened earlier this year.
04:32TSA workers endured the longest government shutdown in history.
04:36There was a lot of discussion and talk invoked about the long lines and the use of leverage to force
04:43through a Homeland Security bill without any reforms to what were critical ICE and CBP reforms that were necessary, that
04:51the American people wanted and were clamoring for.
04:54They didn't want to continue to see mass marauders on their streets with just harassing people.
05:04Congress eventually passed my legislation that paid TSA workers, funded FEMA, CISA, Secret Service, and the Coast Guard.
05:14And today, and it took you 79 days on the Republican side to make that decision to pay these people
05:23instead of just talking about paying this.
05:26The administration continues to walk away from the collective bargaining agreement with TSA workers, something that the federal courts have
05:35now twice said is illegal.
05:38Indeed, your testimony frames the attempt to force over 200 smaller airports in this country into a new security structure
05:48as a setting.
05:49And quote, the TSA, this is in the testimony, the TSA is on the path to privatization.
05:57My question on this issue is, given all that the Transportation Security Office did for us during a Republican shutdown,
06:05how can it be that the Department's position is that TSA workers should not be granted the same basic labor
06:13protections as federal enforcement officers?
06:16How can it be that your priority is to have them work for the lowest bidder, where the wages and
06:22the benefits of these workers will unquestionably be lower?
06:28Well, actually, it was the Democrats that voted every time to shut them down.
06:32Republicans voted every time to open them up.
06:34Pass, just give me an answer to my question.
06:35We didn't shut them down.
06:35You shut them down.
06:36Answer my question.
06:39What are you doing?
06:40Why are you moving?
06:41And I answered your question.
06:42You were the one that shut them down.
06:43The Democrats shut down.
06:44How many times did you vote to shut them down?
06:46You know, these people come to us to get funding for their, for the work that they do.
06:51And we are-
06:52I'm actually factually correct.
06:54I'm factually correct.
06:55You voted to shut them down.
06:57Republicans voted to open them over and over and over again.
07:00Your vote clearly stated that you voted to shut us down.
07:02But they finally did.
07:03It wasn't until it became popular.
07:05And then, by the way, ICE agents came there and helped bring the lines down.
07:08The same people that you also kept shut down for a hundred days.
07:10Mr. Secretary.
07:11I'm answering the question.
07:12No, you didn't.
07:12I thought you said you answered it.
07:14The floor is hers.
07:16My dear.
07:17Actually, I gave it to her.
07:19You know, there is a chairman of a committee.
07:20That's me.
07:21I gave it back to her.
07:23She's got it.
07:23There's something about who these folks are and everybody on this panel.
07:27You have another question, Madam Ranking Mayor.
07:28Well, yeah, no, I do.
07:29But I didn't get an answer to a question.
07:31So the record will still reflect.
07:33Please ask your next question.
07:34Okay.
07:34And I will.
07:34This has to do with FEMA.
07:37Simple question.
07:38And I want to start where I left off with Secretary Noem last year.
07:42FEMA.
07:43Simple yes or no.
07:44Do you support eliminating FEMA?
07:48Do you support eliminating FEMA?
07:50There's portions of FEMA that he's been back at State.
07:53Do you support eliminating FEMA?
07:53There's no yes or no question on that.
07:55There's portions that need to go back to the State.
07:57Do you support eliminating FEMA?
08:01The record will reflect the response.
08:04The record will reflect the response.
08:07Is there another question?
08:08Yeah.
08:09Because let me just say, in April of 2025, the Trump administration prematurely, I'm glad
08:25because Secretary Noem said, yes, she and the president wanted to eliminate FEMA.
08:30The gentleman said that he said it should be reformed.
08:34And the next day, he was fired.
08:37Let it show that the secretary believes that we should shut FEMA down.
08:41April 2025, the administration prematurely, unlawfully ended FEMA's BRIC program.
08:50He intentionally halted roughly 2,000 active infrastructure and disaster mitigation projects
08:57across the country, including one in downtown New Haven, Connecticut.
09:01A coalition of 22 states in D.C. sued FEMA.
09:06A federal judge ruled in favor of the states in December, mandated that FEMA restore the
09:12over $3.6 billion in canceled funding.
09:16At the beginning of March, the judge had to order FEMA to comply with that ruling.
09:22Three months ago, the day after you took over as secretary, FEMA formally announced a, quote,
09:28new and improved BRIC program.
09:31Yet, almost all of these communities are still waiting for their BRIC funding to be restored.
09:41Tell me, Mr. Secretary, when can communities with halted projects expect to receive their BRIC funding?
09:49We actually restarted that when I first came in, and we did 24 or 25 of them.
09:53So, you've done 24 of the 25 of the 2,000.
09:57Let me clarify that.
09:58So, 2024 and 2025, they sent out the notice of notifications that everybody can now submit,
10:05and those projects that were already submitted for those times period will be evaluated.
10:09How many projects are there?
10:10We can get you the details.
10:11Please.
10:11There were 2,000 that we started with.
10:13The secretary also provided direction for 2026 to get the NOFOs out on that,
10:18and that'll come out sometime in September.
10:20The secretary has done more to get the...
10:22I don't...
10:22I do not need your...
10:23You do not need to...
10:25I just want to make sure you're clear.
10:26Well, please.
10:27Okay.
10:28Spare us.
10:29You know?
10:29Just give me the facts.
10:31I did.
10:31Just give me the numbers.
10:32Let me just conclude, Mr. Chairman.
10:35And thank you.
10:35I would like to work in an open and transparent way,
10:40because that BRIC funding for New Haven, Connecticut,
10:43which I probably will not get because I'm in a blue state,
10:47that the BRIC funding for New Haven, Connecticut is important,
10:51which is why we support the programs, bipartisan support for the BRIC program.
10:56So, please, let's get the NOFOs out as quickly as possible
10:59and get the money to the communities that need them.
11:02My final comment to you is I'd just like to go back a second.
11:06We need to go back to the issue of deaths in custody.
11:09It doesn't do anyone good to deflect,
11:12talk about what's happening in a criminal system in Illinois or in Oklahoma.
11:16What we need, what we need, because 54 deaths are 54,
11:22and what is civil detention,
11:25we need a plan to address the fact that 54 people in your department
11:32has had, they were in civil detention,
11:35it's not criminal detention, are dead.
11:37They should not be.
11:39We need to hear from you.
11:40I don't need an answer.
11:41Now there is no time.
11:43I've taken an enormous amount of time.
11:45Get us a policy, a plan,
11:47in a timely fashion that says,
11:49how are we going to deal with these issues?
11:51I yield back and I thank you, Mr.
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