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Starting a team- How many players in the #NFL would you take before Drake Maye?
(Age, injury history, etc., all in consideration) Ty Law weighs in! Mahomes? Lamar?
(Age, injury history, etc., all in consideration) Ty Law weighs in! Mahomes? Lamar?
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00:00It seems like the ceiling is sky high.
00:04I mean, what a difference one season makes, you know,
00:08and another coach and another coordinator makes.
00:11And I think he's going to be a superstar in this league,
00:15especially if they surround him with more talent, some more protection.
00:20I can tell right now because in the quarterback position,
00:24year one to year two is the biggest.
00:27This is what we're going to see.
00:29You know what I mean?
00:30Other positions, you take a little bit more time to develop,
00:32but when you get drafted that high, you're expected to go in and play right away.
00:36Look what they're going down there in Tennessee right now.
00:39It's bad.
00:40If they had to do it all over again, who would be the number one pick?
00:43Drake May, if they had to do it all over again,
00:46Drake May would be the number one pick by the way he's performing right now.
00:49Drake May was in the draft before Tennessee.
00:52Drake May was in the draft before.
00:53I'm just saying he would be the number one.
00:56He's saying if he had to do Drake's draft, he would be number one.
00:59Yeah, exactly.
00:59And he's talking about, you know.
01:00Right.
01:01Well, I mean, even if you have a word about how bad.
01:03How many guys in the NFL would you take from today going forward?
01:07So, like, the age matters.
01:09How many guys in the NFL would you take before you'd start your team with Drake May?
01:13So, age matters.
01:14Okay, so...
01:15None.
01:16How old is...
01:1723.
01:18Josh Allen?
01:1927 or 30.
01:21Okay, so maybe Josh, Lamar.
01:26Josh Allen is 29.
01:2729.
01:28So...
01:29You would take Lamar Jackson over Drake May.
01:31I wouldn't.
01:31I would.
01:32I would.
01:33Whether it's injuries or everybody always has an issue with him in the postseason.
01:36I mean, we haven't seen what Drake May could be in the postseason, but his personality
01:41does not...
01:42No, I'm not.
01:42I mean, listen.
01:43Drake May is five years younger.
01:44What time?
01:45He's five years younger.
01:45I'm going to still go with Lamar right now because I think...
01:49Oh, God.
01:50No, if you put...
01:51You and Wiggy.
01:51No, no.
01:52This guy is a two-time MVP.
01:54MVP, Greg.
01:54That's right.
01:55Drake May is going to be a one-time MVP.
01:56I have a two-time MVP, though.
01:57You can't win in the playoffs.
01:59Like, the pressure...
02:00Right, and I'm not saying...
02:01The lights are too bright for him.
02:02No, and maybe they are, but I'm not saying...
02:04Put on sunglasses.
02:05I'm not saying...
02:05But we don't know if Drake May is going to win in the playoffs.
02:07Yeah, I feel confident in that.
02:09I mean, Josh Allen don't win in the playoffs.
02:11Like, unless you're winning the Super Bowl.
02:13So, would you take him over Josh Allen?
02:15Great.
02:15Lamar Jackson?
02:16No, I'm talking about...
02:17Drake May?
02:18Yeah.
02:19I would.
02:20Yes.
02:20Josh Allen's 29.
02:21I got recency bias here and Homer bias.
02:24I mean, Josh Allen is...
02:26Contract, age, talent, all taken into consideration.
02:30Drake May is the number one choice.
02:32He is.
02:33All right.
02:33Right now, I mean, we still...
02:35I mean, look, I'm on...
02:37Listen, I love Drake May, but you guys are out of your mind.
02:39But you're talking about...
02:40Like you said, you're out of your damn mind.
02:42It's a two-time MVP.
02:44Wiggy, remind me if I'm wrong.
02:45I'm sorry.
02:46Didn't we have this conversation and people said I'd be crazy to trade him for Burrow?
02:50And now we're saying we'd take him over Lamar Jackson?
02:52Yeah, I mean, listen...
02:53Lamar Jackson is a two-time MVP.
02:55He's a guy that has carried that franchise on his back.
02:59And I think you can also, when you want to use these analogies, saying, okay, if you
03:03take Drake May, you know, and take him away from Josh McDaniel, take him away from Mike
03:09Vrabel, would he perform there?
03:11Or would you put him in Lamar Jackson's office?
03:13If you take Lamar Jackson...
03:15Right.
03:15...or Josh Allen, you put him on the Patriots, would they do better than Drake May is doing
03:21right now?
03:21Hell yeah.
03:22You damn right.
03:22Hell yeah.
03:23You damn right.
03:24So, I think you've got to look at it from that standpoint.
03:26He's not there.
03:27He's coming, and he's going to be a superstar, but right now, in his second year, you can't
03:32compare him...
03:32Yeah, but the conversation...
03:33That's like comparing him to Patrick Mahomes.
03:35Yeah, yeah, but the conversation isn't to win a game tomorrow or to win the Super Bowl
03:39this year.
03:40It doesn't matter.
03:41It is for the rest of your franchise.
03:42Okay, will you put him over Patrick Mahomes, too?
03:44For the future of my franchise, yes.
03:45Patrick Mahomes is entering his 30s.
03:46You say it, age does not matter.
03:49No, I said age does matter.
03:51Age, contract, and talent all matter.
03:53Okay, but so even if age matters...
03:55I am the one who says frequently age does not matter.
03:57That's correct.
03:58All right, Curtis.
03:58You look like you're 28.
04:00But soul of an 18-year-old.
04:01But even if age matters, let's say Lamar and Josh Allen...
04:06Lamar's 28, Josh Allen's 29.
04:08Those guys are still going to be good come 37.
04:11So, let's say you got 10 years with them, and maybe you got 12 to 15 with Drake.
04:18And I don't know, because Drake May is having an unbelievable year, and I think the kid's
04:24going to be good.
04:25But we've seen a lot, a lot of guys in the NFL have one good year and then fall off.
04:31I've seen Josh Allen over, I don't know how many years he's been in the league.
04:34I've seen Lamar Jackson over how many years he's been in the league.
04:36Well, who do you put in that category?
04:38And I'm assuming, are you allowing for injuries or not?
04:42Well, yeah, that's the thing, though, Greg.
04:44For me, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are three guys without hesitation.
04:50Given everything I know, even their contracted age, I'm taking ahead of Drake May.
04:54We don't know what's the most difficult thing, Ty and Wiggy, as a great quarterback.
05:00Doesn't it have to be that you're always on the field and you're durable?
05:03We don't know that.
05:04He might be.
05:05Drake May may play every week.
05:06But if you're talking about durability, then you have to take that into account with Lamar Jackson.
05:10Right.
05:10And I'm still, right.
05:11But even when it comes to an example of somebody having a great year and then whatever falling off,
05:16are you talking like Jaden Daniels?
05:18Like, is that an example?
05:19No, I'm talking about, like, I mean, we've seen them, whether it's RG3 or we've seen it with maybe,
05:27I think Trevor Lawrence had a really good year.
05:30We've seen it with Justin Herbert.
05:31Lamar Jackson has basically played in every single game, except for he's had, like, a couple years where he only played in 12 games.
05:39So has he had injuries?
05:41But everybody can have injuries.
05:42I mean, short of Tom Brady, everybody deals with something.
05:47Right.
05:47And if you're telling me right now for the next five to six to seven, eight years.
05:51I would take Tom Brady today as is.
05:53But I'm saying for the next five to six, seven, eight years, because, you know, 12 years is pushing it or 10 years is pushing it.
06:01Give me Mahomes, Allen, and Lamar without even hesitating.
06:07Because Ty brings up a good point.
06:08And if you put Drake May and Todd Munkin's offense with the Baltimore Ravens, you'd think he would.
06:14They'd still be great.
06:15They have Derrick Henry running the football league.
06:17Bullshit.
06:18Come on, Sean.
06:19Bang!
06:20Come on.
06:21Bullshit.
06:22Oh!
06:22I'm sorry.
06:23Stop.
06:23We have to dump out of that.
06:24We have to stop.
06:25Come on, man.
06:26You can't say that, Lamar.
06:28They still win the division.
06:28Everything is running around.
06:29Come on, man.
06:30How many Super Bowls?
06:31What's Derrick Henry's stats right now?
06:33Huh?
06:33What's Derrick Henry's stats right now?
06:35I think they're decent, but Lamar, before he got hurt, I think he had 12 touchdowns and
06:39one interception or two interceptions.
06:40So he was playing at a high level.
06:41He won one game.
06:43And at one time, we was talking about, hey, Matt Jones look all right.
06:48At one time, we was all saying that, too.
06:51So, again, you have to give him more time.
06:54Greg's still saying it.
06:55And that's kind of disrespectful to talk about putting Drake May as well as he is playing
07:01to, say, put him in the category.
07:03Drake May's running back is averaging the lowest yards per carry in the league.
07:08Right.
07:08You give him the offensive lines and the running backs of the Ravens or the Bills, and he'd
07:13be even better.
07:14Stop it.
07:15That's the crazy start.
07:16Stop it.
07:16Stop it.
07:17I'm probably right about that.
07:17I am.
07:19He's not.
07:19No, he's not.
07:20Absolutely.
07:21So you're saying if Josh Allen is in this offense with Mike Vrabel,
07:33and Josh McDaniels, Drake May's still performing better than him.
07:39I think they'd still be 6-2.
07:41We're not talking about that.
07:42Drake May is not falling off.
07:44I'm not saying he's falling off.
07:46He's every week.
07:47He is breaking records historically.
07:51You know, he's seven games with over 100 QBR.
07:54Hey, I'd say his efficiency is off-chain, but it's about longevity, too.
08:00We're still fairly early in the season.
08:03You know what I mean?
08:03What's the Patriots' record?
08:04Huh?
08:056-2.
08:06If Lamar or Josh Allen are a quarterback, you're 8-0.
08:10Lamar's team is 1-5.
08:11You know, I'm saying here.
08:13I'm saying here.
08:13We're not talking about Baltimore.
08:15Baltimore's team is better than this team.
08:17I got a question.
08:18Patrick Mahomes.
08:19If you put Patrick Mahomes here, do you still take—
08:22You probably ain't know if Patrick Mahomes is here.
08:24I'll give you that one.
08:24And you are with Josh Allen and you are with Lamar Jackson
08:27because in Baltimore, the reason why they stink
08:29is because their defense is pathetic, right?
08:32So let's talk about why they stink in Baltimore.
08:34You put Lamar Jackson here.
08:36You put Josh Allen here because we're talking about those two guys.
08:40We'll keep Mahomes out of the conversation.
08:42This team is 8-0.
08:43No, they do not lose to the Raiders in week one.
08:47And they do not lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers at home.
08:50Nope.
08:50Because your team—
08:51Well, Josh Allen doesn't stop your running back
08:53in the Steelers game from fumbling the football three times.
08:57No, no, no.
08:57But you know why he does?
08:58Because he runs the football.
09:00Right.
09:00So does your quarterback.
09:01When are you talking about James Cook just ran it like 15 or 20 times
09:04literally yesterday or Sunday?
09:05No, Drake—I mean, Greg is saying that in the Pittsburgh game,
09:11Ramondre fumbled.
09:12And I'm saying that if Josh Allen's your quarterback,
09:15he's probably not giving it to Ramondre.
09:17Josh Allen's keeping it and knows why he don't fumble a touchdown.
09:21And Josh Allen is not throwing an interception on the two-yard line.
09:24He's putting back pylon.
09:25So for you to say—and listen, I love Drake, man.
09:27I think he's going to be a great player.
09:29But for you to say that if Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are here,
09:33that this team wouldn't be 8-0, man, pass me the blunt.
09:36Another question for you because I was doing this last night during dinner
09:41going through the schedule.
09:44Did they just play the best defense that they were going to play this season?
09:48You know what?
09:49They played the best player that they're going to play on defense,
09:53which is Miles Garrett.
09:54You see what happened.
09:55You know what I mean?
09:56He gets five sacks.
09:57So I don't think this is the best defense.
10:01I mean, Cleveland, that's all they got.
10:03I mean, Buffalo's defense stinks.
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