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Clip1:
- Kuckuckskinder -
Zweifelnde Väter als Gen-Spione
ZDF, Frontal 21, April 2001
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Clip2:
- Kuckuckskinder -
Haben Väter ein Recht auf die Wahrheit?
3sat, Kulturzeit, Januar 2005
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Clip3:
Kuckuckskinder - Neue Rechte für Väter
Vaterschaftstests endlich legalisiert
POLYLUX, ARD, April 2008
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Clip4:
- Kuckuckskinder -
Untergeschoben: Kuckuckskinder
ZDF, Mona Lisa, Mai 2015
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Weitere Fälle Kuckuckskinder:
Papa Ahnungslos - Meine Frau hat mir 3 Kinder untergejubelt
https://www.bild.de/news/vermischtes/mir-drei-kinder-untergeschoben-4255586.bild.html
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Aber Samenraub ist legal:
Unfreiwillige Vaterschaft: Unterhalt trotz Samenraub
https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/panorama/unfreiwillige-vaterschaft-unterhalt-trotz-samenraub/205256.html
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https://www.bild.de/regional/ruhrgebiet/samenraubprozess-olg-hamm-weist-schadensersatzklage-28386678.bild.html
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Haarsträubendsten und absurdesten Urteile über Väterprobleme mit Kuckuckskindern. Rechtsstaat? Kirchenstaat, Justizmafia, Mafiastaat:
https://kuckucksvater.wordpress.com/2012/04/04/unterschieben-eines-kuckuckskindes-kein-grund-fur-unterhaltswegfall/
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00:00This is a recently published study.
00:27And often not without consequences.
00:29Genetic researchers are convinced that 5% of all children in Germany do not come from the man who believes he is the father.
00:38A Munich laboratory is experiencing a boom. It offers paternity tests without the mothers' knowledge.
00:45A pacifier or a lock of the child's hair is sufficient.
00:48Friedrich Kurz on genetic espionage.
00:52When the postwoman rings the doorbell at the Munich private laboratory Genedia, she always brings a sack full of espionage assignments.
00:59The letters come from distrustful fathers.
01:02They want to find out through secret genetic tests whether their child is really theirs or whether their wife is the offspring of a lover.
01:08became pregnant.
01:10The genetic laboratory only needs hair roots or mucous membrane cells from the father and child.
01:14The fathers send bags containing used children's toothbrushes, cut-off tufts of hair, chewing gum, full tissues, or corners.
01:23Sex espionage using secret genetic tests is all the rage.
01:28The market has already exploded in the USA.
01:33In other words, there's a real boom with several thousand samples being taken every day.
01:37And we ultimately expect this boom to happen here as well, due to the fact that this new technology will finally be available.
01:46The genetic test costs between 1 and 2,000 marks.
01:49The best part? The wife doesn't find out about it.
01:51She does not need to take the test.
01:54We can test any material as a trace carrier; that's what we call it.
01:59It could be a spoon, it could be a cigarette butt, it could be an article of clothing, from socks to underwear.
02:06Everything the body has ultimately come into contact with.
02:09The trace carriers are compared.
02:12Whenever the genetic patterns on the computer didn't match, infidelity was involved.
02:19Here you can see the examination results for the child.
02:22Two peaks.
02:24Here are the test results for the father as well.
02:26Two peaks, but they are far apart in the father's case.
02:29In children, they lie close together.
02:32This is a classic case of excluding paternity.
02:36Scientific studies lead to astonishing results.
02:39Approximately 5% of all babies are so-called cuckoo children, who were passed off as their fathers' children.
02:46You should know that 100 babies are born every day in Germany.
02:51where the father doesn't know that he is not the father, that the children are not his.
02:58And that means that between 35,000 and 40,000 babies are born in Germany each year.
03:05where the father doesn't know that they are not his.
03:10In terms of those who are currently 21 years old, this figure is one million in the German population.
03:16Those who don't know, that is, those whose father doesn't know that they are not his.
03:22The Mainz forensic pathologist Christian Rittner came to similar conclusions.
03:26He is considered the father of genetic testing in Germany.
03:29He is appalled at how the new technology is being used for sex espionage.
03:33Genetic tests to determine paternity are spreading like wildfire.
03:39Not everything that is possible, from an investigative standpoint, is also permitted.
03:45Yes, the procedure can violate a woman's privacy.
03:50by refusing to reveal the man's name.
03:53But in any case, he is acting against the child's best interests.
03:58Volker B. is one of those fathers who had their baby undergo a genetic test without the mother's knowledge.
04:03He found the laboratory address on the internet.
04:05At first he loved the child, but now the relationship is ruined.
04:32Federal Data Protection Commissioner Jakob first learned about the extent of the secret genetic testing through Frontal 21.
04:39He says it's a legal loophole. The federal government must act quickly.
04:43A secret genetic test, like any test, is of course an infringement on a person's right to privacy.
04:51and, of course, also an infringement of the individual's right to informational self-determination.
04:56That's obvious.
04:58However, our legal situation is such that
05:01that such tests are not covered by data protection regulations.
05:07That means they are possible.
05:10They are possible, regrettable as that is.
05:14Holger S. from Frankfurt, father of an illegitimate son, has been paying child support for mother and child for ten years.
05:20When his son began to look less and less like him, he had a secret genetic test done.
05:24The test result is clear.
05:26Her paternity is practically ruled out.
05:31In my opinion, that's a complete fraud.
05:34because the mother appropriated all the maintenance payments,
05:38which they are not entitled to at all.
05:40One is disappointed.
05:42One is disappointed in the woman who deals with fates so irresponsibly.
05:46not only towards the man, but also towards the child.
05:50My child loves me and respects me as a father.
05:54Children are the ones who suffer.
05:56I propose as a legal sanction that such actions,
06:01Ordering a genetic test or using the results is a punishable offense.
06:05The Federal Government would hereby be called upon to introduce appropriate regulations.
06:10And the Ministry of Justice is in charge of this.
06:13Genedia Waldenmeier company, good day.
06:16Do you definitely want to take the test without the mother present?
06:21Frontal 21 has asked Federal Justice Minister Hertha Däubler-Gmelin for an interview.
06:27She refused, saying she didn't feel responsible.
06:30But as long as politicians look the other way, sex espionage using genetic testing will boom.
06:35Ultimately, the children will pay the price.
06:48Good evening, Mr. Tenakis.
06:51Good evening.
06:52Mr. Tenakis, what does the situation actually tell us?
06:55that more and more fathers are going into the children's room
06:59To steal, so to speak, hair or saliva from the children for this secret paternity test?
07:06So this strongly suggests that we should continue the public debate about the coconut children,
07:12which unsettled the men.
07:14And that is then reflected on an individual level in the way you said it,
07:19that many fathers simply want that final bit of security.
07:23Because what the English say is what counts.
07:25Mother's Baby, Father's Maybe.
07:29Are these men trying to escape alimony payments?
07:34Or is there a deeper insecurity behind it?
07:37I believe this is a deeper insecurity that points towards the search for identity.
07:43Today, a father defines his identity much like a mother does.
07:46his older identity through the child.
07:49If these foundations are shaken,
07:51namely the belief that this child is not his child,
07:54Then, of course, his identity will also be incorporated into the passion.
07:58There is of course also a sample of fathers,
08:01who are then no longer willing
08:04to take on the financial responsibility for these children.
08:07How do most fathers behave?
08:10I mean, that only applies to fathers.
08:12Mothers don't have the opportunity to say,
08:14That's not my child then, and I'm leaving.
08:16Do they go away, or do you simply accept your fate?
08:20They usually don't go away.
08:22They usually stay.
08:23Usually, they are also fathers,
08:25who, despite the diagnosis, still keep the child
08:30and build a relationship with the child.
08:32However, and this is also the order of the day,
08:34instead of operating with bans,
08:36One should offer consulting services.
08:39You just mentioned it,
08:40the draft law of the Federal Minister of Justice,
08:43He wants this secret paternity test.
08:47to criminalize it or at least outlaw it legally.
08:50And the Federal Constitutional Court has today
08:53emphasizes the child's fundamental right to self-determination.
08:56That means it is not actionable in court.
08:58such a secret paternity test.
09:00Do you share this opinion?
09:04So I think we need to have a full understanding of that,
09:07that the rights of the child are strengthened.
09:09On the other hand, bans of this kind are not productive.
09:14The effect of the legal system on specific behavior is, in any case, very limited.
09:20Therefore, I would argue that the legislature should take a different approach.
09:25namely to withdraw the influence of the legal system
09:29and instead, counselling services or tests initiated by family volunteers
09:36This type of thing should definitely be supported.
09:39But Mr. Tinakis, if, so to speak, the secret paternity test
09:43only costs up to €150
09:48and the official paternity test, which one can essentially sue for in court,
09:53If it costs 1500 euros, then most fathers will probably,
09:56If there's no law against it, then you should take the cheaper option, so to speak.
09:59Needless to say, this is a scandal.
10:02That fathers go into children's rooms and don't respect this right at all?
10:07I think we must respect the child's rights to the highest degree.
10:12There is absolutely no doubt about that.
10:14On the other hand, we must also acknowledge and accept,
10:18that a man also has the right to
10:20to gain exactly the same security for his child as the mother.
10:24Establishing a balance here is the task of the legislator.
10:29But it all depends on the quality of this offer.
10:33and this type of legal intervention.
10:36I am not a fan of measures that simply amount to bans.
10:41or an expensive legal intervention,
10:45if there are other ways to do it.
10:48I can specifically imagine,
10:50that the legislator in such cases,
10:52where the father raises or expresses doubts,
10:56This opens up the possibility for the family to take the initiative itself.
11:00and takes advantage of this inexpensive option.
11:03And provides for legal proceedings only in cases where
11:07where this finding is de facto positive.
11:11There is a survey according to which 80% of all men
11:15Have understanding for this secret paternity test.
11:19How do you think that is for women?
11:22I think it will be the other way around for women.
11:26But I think one has to have understanding for both sides.
11:29The woman has little interest,
11:31if she has already placed a cuckoo's oath into the family,
11:35that it will be revealed.
11:37And the men have a legitimate concern,
11:42If something like that has happened,
11:43to gain certainty about the child's origin.
11:45To bring about a new balance here,
11:47The legal system alone will not create it.
11:49So you actually see,
11:51that there is tension between the sexes, between mothers and fathers
11:53because there is a new mistrust.
11:56That is indeed the case,
11:58and the number of these children,
12:00as is also expressed in recent publications,
12:03This essentially provides a de facto basis for this mistrust.
12:08Thank you very much for the conversation.
12:18Since the day before yesterday, cuckolded fathers can breathe a sigh of relief.
12:21A new law regulates how to deal with so-called cuckoo children.
12:25If Dad has doubts, he can test it.
12:27Completely legal and even against the mother's will.
12:30Does this really benefit the children?
12:33Questionable.
12:34The only ones who really have reason to celebrate are the chronically doubting fathers.
12:38And that's what they're doing now in our Fight Club.
12:45Is it really mine?
12:48Up to 70,000 cuckoo children are placed in the nests of German men every year.
12:52That's the assessment of the Ärztezeitung (German Medical Journal).
12:54Nearly 200 every day.
12:59While we dutifully go to the office and collect the rent,
13:02Mom is having a lovely morning with her lover.
13:06And the cuckolded husbands are allowed to have the other men's children.
13:09then entertain and pay for them for a lifetime.
13:14Finally, that's over.
13:16Since April 1st, it has been completely legal to take a paternity test.
13:19and present it to the court.
13:21Even against the will of the mother.
13:27A law that would have saved Denis Kovacic a lot of trouble.
13:31When his son was three and a half, he began to have doubts.
13:35But paternity tests were still illegal at that time.
13:39Denis had to do it secretly.
13:45The test ruled it out 100% if I am the father.
13:50And the first moment was the feelings, I believe.
13:55There's definitely disappointment, sadness, but also anger about the whole thing.
13:59So it was actually a rollercoaster of emotions.
14:04Fathers' rights activists like Rainer Sonnenberger breathe a sigh of relief.
14:07The undignified secrecy has come to an end.
14:10He knows, even though the truth is out,
14:13Many fathers still take care of their cuckoo children.
14:20It is especially helpful for children when this question is clarified.
14:24and that's when a father takes a very clear stance and says,
14:27even though I am not the biological father,
14:30I would like to continue this relationship.
14:33And that helps the children to have stable relationships.
14:35can build relationships with their caregivers.
14:38So if you have any doubts about whether your wife has always been faithful,
14:43Don't hesitate.
14:44Take the test.
14:45The times when women were allowed to do anything,
14:49Thank God they're over.
15:00The female members of our editorial team see things slightly differently.
15:05The second round begins.
15:12Watch out, the stronger sex is about to give the women a good thrashing again.
15:18Free rein for general suspicion.
15:21A new law protects our oh-so-poor men.
15:24for their oh-so-unrolled wives and their cuckoo children.
15:35Control-obsessed men have it easy.
15:37From now on, they don't even need reasons anymore.
15:39to cite doubts about one's own paternity.
15:50Family lawyer Peggy Liebesch fears,
15:54In the future, fathers will destroy their families thousands of times over.
15:57Because paternity tests destroy trust.
16:01Mostly completely free.
16:03In only one out of ten cases is the suspicion justified.
16:11First of all, it's typically male,
16:14to absolutely want to clarify this biological paternity.
16:17That seems to be the absolute priority anyway.
16:21which is not so relevant nowadays,
16:24because there are many relationships that are patchwork families,
16:27where children from previous relationships come into the partnerships,
16:30where biological fatherhood no longer plays any role at all,
16:33where social fatherhood and parenthood take center stage.
16:37And then to focus so much on this biological ancestry,
16:42is a bit, I would say, backward.
16:48Where does all this mistrust even come from?
16:51Are the men simply extrapolating from their own mating instinct to that of their wives?
16:57Those who cannot control their jealousy,
17:00He should try therapy.
17:10Fatherhood cannot be reduced to genes.
17:13Being a father is a gift.
17:16Just accept it.
17:36He is a cuckoo father and wants to remain unrecognized out of shame.
17:41We call him Sammy.
17:42He has four children with his soon-to-be ex-wife,
17:46But the fifth one is not his.
17:50Wow, that was incredibly painful.
17:53I was completely devastated, wondering how it could have happened, why at all.
17:59That's a complete disaster.
18:02Sammy had himself sterilized after his fourth child.
18:05and has not had sexual intercourse with his wife for quite some time.
18:09He urges her to take a paternity test.
18:12That's clear.
18:14Sammy is not the father; someone else is.
18:17But his wife is blocking him.
18:19I would never know her name, at the earliest when she is dead.
18:23Really, really tough.
18:24Since he was married to his wife at the time of the child's birth,
18:30It is valid according to a 100-year-old paragraph of the civil code.
18:34but legally as the father.
18:37You have hardly any rights.
18:39One is forced into this situation by law.
18:42to be the formal and legal father first,
18:45even though you know perfectly well that you are not the father.
18:48The state seems to be only concerned with this,
18:50that he has recourse to a man who will pay in such a situation.
18:54Following a recent ruling by the Federal Constitutional Court
18:58Mothers have no obligation to provide information.
19:01In other words, they do not have to reveal the name of the biological father.
19:05because it infringes on their intimate and private sphere.
19:09The privacy of women is now valued more highly.
19:12on the one hand, the damage suffered by the presumed father,
19:15and also the rights of the child.
19:17Because the child has the right to know who its biological father is.
19:22The verdict is not only for fake fathers,
19:24but also a slap in the face for cuckoo children,
19:28says Jelka.
19:29She was 30 when her perfect world began to crumble.
19:32Terrible.
19:33Getting the result was simply a disaster.
19:37Because one does somehow have the hope,
19:39everything will be fine.
19:40It turns out the dad is the dad.
19:45In 2001, her mother and her, as she had believed until then,
19:49Biological father separated after 33 years of marriage.
19:52Jelka begins to have doubts when her mother's new husband introduces her as his daughter.
19:58She suspects that her mother had an affair for decades.
20:02and requests a parentage test.
20:04Then the report arrives, and then somewhere on page 3, way down at the bottom, it says,
20:09that paternity is virtually ruled out with 99.99999% certainty.
20:15And with that, the verdict is made at that moment.
20:20The identity is not the one one believed one had been living all along.
20:26The family structure of her childhood was one big lie.
20:30Since then, contact with her biological father, as well as with her alleged father, has been broken off.
20:36She is currently trying to reconnect with her mother.
20:41We haven't really talked about it properly to this day.
20:43I would like us to have a conversation sometime.
20:47Without making accusations, without having to fight it out with each other.
20:57Although she now knows her biological father through her identity, she is still searching for him.
21:06In Germany, statistically speaking, in every school class of 20 children, at least one is a cuckoo child.
21:14There is no explicit legal provision that gives a child a right to information from the mother.
21:22Ancestry is a very essential part of personality.
21:26We also know this from adoption cases, where children at a certain age, when they become aware of,
21:33that they live in an adoptive family and are searching very strongly for their origins.
21:37And in such a situation, there is also a child where it turns out that the father is only a, in
21:42Quotation marks, pseudo-father is.
21:45After a mental breakdown and subsequent stay in a clinic, Sammy, the alleged father, decides to contest paternity.
21:55I am not responsible for this child.
21:58The child has the right to find out who their father is at an early age.
22:03I am in the fortunate position that it hasn't cost me much in maintenance yet.
22:07The child benefit payment is coming.
22:09Therefore, the economic damage is zero.
22:11The real damage is emotional and health-related.
22:16Sammy definitely wants to be a good father to his own children.
22:21But they will probably never be a happy family again.
22:53But she will probably never have a happy family again.
22:58But they will probably never be a happy family again.
23:12Unbelievable.
23:12But you do not have what God has.
23:19all the interest chips textbooks.
23:22But then ermakeiguse studies are discontinued.
23:27Subtitling by ZDF for funk, 2017
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